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#1 dalbert

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 12:21 PM

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Gordon Herigstad firing a Colt Thompson at a shoot in Ohio in 2006.  The shooter to his left is Warren Kreiser.  Both Thompson aficionados pictured here

passed away recently.

 

I'm starting this as a pinned post in memory of Gordon Herigstad, the author of Colt Thompson Serial Numbers, who passed away on 4/23/15.  This post will become a repository for information on Colt Thompson serial numbers that were not featured in Gordon's books, because he left us too soon.

 

There are thousands more Colt Thompsons that remain to be documented.  Many were consumed over the almost 100 years since their manufacture, but the iconic firearm has an uncanny way of surviving, and resurfacing around the world for us to wonder about and discuss.

 

I don't have Gordon's latest book yet, and I'm away from my 4th edition of his book at the moment, but I'm pretty sure that the recent discovery of # 11410 in Germany was not documented by Gordon, so it will be the first entry below.  This post will change over time, and I'll leave it open, in case anyone wants to add to it.  Any new serial numbers that are added in other posts will be summarized here, similar to how Gordon listed such information in his books.

 

Your contributions to this effort will be appreciated by anyone who appreciates Colt Thompsons.

 

David Albert

4/26/15

 

#936

  • In the Imperial War Museum collection in England 
  • Purchased by the IRA in 1921
  • Serial number is defaced, but can still be read
  • Reported by rpbcps on 7/3/17

 

#2373

  • Getty Image found showing this serial number
  • 1921A configuration, well worn
  • Vertical grip broken along grip mount
  • Has unreadable property tag attached to vertical grip
  • Reported by by member GIJive on 3/3/17

 

#4658

  • Colt Thompson 1921A Serial Number 4658 is currently in the possession of a suburban Chicago, Illinois Police Department 
  • The gun appears to be in very nice condition
  • No word on whether it is registered or transferable
  • Reported by DLansky on 9/4/15

#5771

  • Appears to be French contract Colt with Berthier sling swivels attached
  • Located in Europe
  • Reported by rpbcps on 7/3/17

 

#10841

  • Transferable MG for sale by Ruben Mendiola, Class III Dealer in Miami, FL, December 2015
  • 1928AC (21/28 Overstamp)
  • Has 2-piece actuator

#11410

  • Overstamped from 1921 to 1928, then stamped again to add "U.S." and "A1" to read "U.S. Model of 1928A1"
  • No Barrel (Dewatted - Receiver and lower with wood and internal parts)
  • Evidence of being submerged in a lake, probably in Austria - Has British soldered patent date magazine with it, and horizontal foregrip with British style sling swivel mounted on left hand side
  • Possibly one of 951 Colts purchased by U.S. Army 1939
  • For sale on egun.de on 4/26/15

 

#12784

  • French contract Colt surfaced in France:
  • sold for $4,000 (deactivated)
  • Matching numbers upper and lower
  • Photo included in this thread, posted 3/10/16

 

#13429

  • 1928AC (Navy Overstamp)
  • For sale by Ruben Mendiola, August 2016 for $32,995
  • Has Savage and WH parts in it
  • ​Savage bolt in it was part of 5K rounds semi-auto test in January, 1941 (engraved with details)

 

#13685

  • All that is known is that it's in a New Jersey PD
  • Reported by K-9Dogo on 8/25/15
  • Updated in late October 2015 as completely destroyed by PD (Fed into smelter)  :( 

 

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R.I.P. - Gordon Herigstad, 1938-2015


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Posted 03 May 2015 - 05:22 PM

Its is here!

http://www.egun.de/m...6ef6df454cd#img

 

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Posted 11 May 2015 - 02:33 PM

Additional detailed photos of Colt No 11410 can be found here: http://www.machinegu...showtopic=17730


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Posted 06 June 2015 - 08:11 PM

My L-drum number was not listed in Gordon's book.  I emailed it to him years ago. I guess he forgot.  #2634


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Posted 22 August 2015 - 03:11 PM

The title and original posting of this thread refer only to newly discovered Colt Thompsons.  Following the untimely and sudden passing of Mr. Gordon Herigstad, was there anyone designated as the person to inform when amendments to the Colt Thompson Serial Numbers data for Colt TSMGs that are already in the listing are in order?

 

Thank you.


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Posted 22 August 2015 - 07:43 PM

Merry Ploughboy,

 

No one is designated.  I started this thread to serve as a collection area for new information, as I know Gordon would have wanted his quest continued.  Feel free to post any data corrections that may be necessary, and folks can then update their books manually.

 

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 10:06 AM

NO 13689

 

http://www.machinegu...showtopic=18160

 

Apparently this Colt has been found in New Jersey - thread link, above. I do not find a reference for NO 13689 in my 3rd Edition of Gordon's book. Please update this thread if Gordon's final edition has more information.

 

A later update to NO 13689:

 

http://www.machinegu...showtopic=18486


Edited by TD., 28 October 2015 - 11:59 AM.

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#8 Merry Ploughboy

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 11:48 AM

David, thank you for the feedback.

The Sixth edition of Colt Thompson Serial numbers in Vol. 2, page xx illustrates No. 4388.  However, on the following page (xxi), the list of "Known serial numbers of the "Model of 1927" (101)" does not include No. 4388.


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 09:02 PM

Hello all, I'm a new member here although I've been reading the posts for quite a while now.

 

I am the owner of 1921/8 Navy Thompson SN 11558.  I came into possession of this gun prior to 1968, as a barreled receiver, no lower, and subsequently registered it during the amnesty.  Can anyone give me any information on the history of this gun?  I'd appreciate it.


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Posted 22 December 2015 - 07:27 AM

I just loaned out Gordon's book to a friend last night.  I will call him today to look it up if no other Forum members answer first. 

 

Do you have any other parts for your gun, if not PM me. 


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Posted 22 December 2015 - 07:29 AM

Don't know if this has been reported yet, but SN 10841 was not in Gordon's last Book. If it has been reported I must have overlooked it. Recommend keeping a running tally on the numbers turned up, so we don't cover down on them multiple times.

 

Here is a link to it. http://dealernfa.com...ery-nice-10841/

 

Cheers

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 09:23 AM

Medalguy,

 

In Gordon's latest book 11558 1928 Navy State of South Carolina; Office of the Governor Columbia, South Carolina(1of 6) (1 of 2 Shipped 7/26/32)

 

[ 10617 & 11558] Attn to: Law Enforcement Division

 

Hope this helps.

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 03:17 PM

Sounds like one slipped out of the office!  Despite the previous ownership, my understanding is the new "amnesty" registered owner is now the legitimate owner.


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Posted 29 December 2015 - 11:40 PM

Thanks guys.  Yes that's my understanding too, amnesty registration trumps all prior owners.  I do appreciate the info on this gun.


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Posted 24 January 2016 - 09:02 PM

What are Gordons double volume books selling for these days?  Is 300 in the ball park?


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Posted 28 January 2016 - 08:31 PM

What are Gordons double volume books selling for these days?  Is 300 in the ball park?

 

I think the sticker price is $375...

 

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 07:43 PM

Sorry guys , there was a error in my reporting on # 13869...Thats the #  I was given ,but it should be 13865..


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Posted 06 February 2016 - 04:16 PM

What are Gordons double volume books selling for these days?  Is 300 in the ball park?

 

I think the sticker price is $375...

 

David Albert

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The MSRP is now $299.95 plus H & S on Amazon.


Edited by Merry Ploughboy, 06 February 2016 - 04:17 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2016 - 11:03 AM

Sorry guys , there was a error in my reporting on # 13869...Thats the #  I was given ,but it should be 13865..

 

K-9Dogo,

 

Just to make sure...13865?  It was originally reported as 13689, and you list it as originally 13869 above.  I just want to be sure...

 

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Posted 10 March 2016 - 12:21 PM

French contract Colt 12784 has surfaced in France: sold for 4.000 $ (deactivated) Matching numbers upper and lower

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