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#1 John in IN

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Posted 30 December 2019 - 04:29 PM

Looking for original 9mm bolts, magwell adapters and barrels for both M3 and M3A1. 

 

I know they are not common but if anyone has anything laying around I would be interested in buying.

 

PM me if you have anything.

 

Thanks,  John


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Posted 31 December 2019 - 07:03 PM

Good luck lol I keep looking and so far Ive come up with a magazine adapter. Im going to machine my own barrel and Im still working on the bolt.
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#3 John in IN

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 01:49 PM

I know, I hear ya.  You never know what someone may have stashed away and ready to turn into $$$.

 

The mag adapter is hard to find, so that's good you have that anyway.  I modified an Indy Ord barrel to be "mil spec" so to speak, so it's compatible with an original 9mm bolt.

 

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 07:45 PM

John,

What did you have to do to modify the Ind.-Ord. Barels to be "mil spec" (?).

I would like to set up my early "Guide" M3 into firing 9x19mm with a "9mm-kit". 

 

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#5 John in IN

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 09:58 PM

Richard,

 

The Indy Ord. barrel is designed to work with his bolt, but his bolt is not at all like the original 9mm bolts were.  The original Guide designed bolt has a much deeper bolt-face than the Indy Ord. so the barrel depth ( in relation to the nut/collar) had to be adjusted to work properly.

 

The first picture shows the difference between the Indy Ord. 9mm barrel as received on the left vs. my modified Indy Ord. barrel on the right.  I guess he assembles different batches different ways. Luckily my barrel looked like it was peened with a center punch, applied Locktite and pushed into the barrel nut.  The one on the left looks to be more properly pinned in place.  We were able to easily push the barrel deeper into the nut, and once it was positioned properly, my machinist buddy welded it in place (picture 2).

 

John

 

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Posted 04 January 2020 - 02:29 PM

John,

Could you post some clear photos of the 9mm-Bolt-Assemblies that you have (?)…...and let us know if they are original and/or Ind.-Ord. so that I/we can see the differences.

 

Also, I see Ind.-Ord's Mag-Well-Adaptor......does anyone have clear photos of both the Ind.-Ord Mag-Well-Adaptor and an "original" adaptor ….possibly side-by-side (?).

 

I am also looking for these 9mm-conversion parts....possibly someone that couldn't get their M3/M3A1 running with 9mm...….(?).

 

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#7 John in IN

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Posted 05 January 2020 - 06:50 PM

Here's the Indy Ord. 9mm bolt on the left vs. original Guide 9mm bolt (RIA manufactured) on the right. 

 

I think Indy Ord. may have used a standard .45 M3 bolt as a pattern and just made it in 9mm.  They sure didn't model it after an original 9mm bolt.

 

Edit: the 2nd picture doesn't want to format properly.  The Indy Ord. bolt is on the bottom; Guide on top

 

John 

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