Petroleum 1 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) This may have been already posted. I understand Johnny Depp was really into the Thompsons and in one scene hes firing the gun with a 20 round stick mag. Was there 30 rounders back then?? Edited February 16, 2018 by Petroleum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 This may have been already posted. I understand Johnny Depp was really into the Thompsons and in one scene hes firing the gun with a 20 round stick mag. Was there 30 rounders back then??No, the thirty round box magazine wasn't introduced until the M1/M1A1 Models were developed in 1942. Any magazines pre-WWII were twenty round box, fifty and one hundred round drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Dillinger gang didn't use BARs either, that's the Texas Rattlesnake, Clyde Barrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) Dillinger gang didn't use BARs either, that's the Texas Rattlesnake, Clyde Barrow. Interesting...they spent so much time getting the historical weapons correct and they stick a BAR aka like Bonnie and Clyde in there?? Edited February 16, 2018 by Petroleum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 They had asked if they could use my 1933 Buick 90 for the Racine robbery scene, which would of been correct, but being there are only 1/2 doz left in the world mine was not available, won't be anyway, actors tear up your cars, for the scene. They used a 1936 Buick in the movie instead. Also they asked the National Crime & Punishment Museum , if they could use the original John Dillinger car, which I also owned, but had sold it to the museum, if they could take the Dillinger Essex and paint it black for the movie. The museum called me about what I thought...... " they nuts ? " As with all Hollywood films some are correct some not. Depp got real involved in the Dillinger history and bought a bunch of stuff from the Dillinger family, as was told me by Dillinger's great nephew. Lot of historical mistakes also, maybe due to time restraints? The killing of Baby Face Nelson was way more dramatic then the movie version, etc. etc Was some cool stuff in it anyway- OCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) Ocm...is that the original color of Dillingers car when he owned it?? Also they are discussing the Ford V8 as the go to car for the gang. Is that also not correct?? Edited February 16, 2018 by Petroleum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Original color was black on the 1933 Essex Terraplane 8. Long story- repainted in the 60s . Dillinger had both Thompson # 7387 & #6444 in the car with him. His personal car and a lot of the gang's was the 1933 Essex Terraplane 8- FAST car. I've had a couple 34 V8s too, it would way outrun them . Ford V8 was the working car, one of the faster cars on the road then. Barrow ran the 33-34 V8 exclusively. BTW, we're going to get busted over here on this side, if any more interest, David might slip this over to the outlaw/lawmen forum. I get pretty windy on the subject. OCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 "Dillinger gang didn't use BARs"Do we not count Baby face as a Dillinger gang member???Or we don't count the Monitor as a BAR??Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 an other mistake is the movie ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 an other mistake is the movie ? Capture d’écran 2018-02-16 à 18.32.05.png Paul,The average person watching the movie, will not have the knowledge to spot that one Have a good weekendRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 an other mistake is the movie ? Capture d’écran 2018-02-16 à 18.32.05.pngIs that tiny oversight really so inexcusable when there is this? http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Pretty_Boy_Floyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryKeim Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Me, being just shy of average, doesn't see it. Do tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 "Dillinger gang didn't use BARs"Do we not count Baby face as a Dillinger gang member???Or we don't count the Monitor as a BAR??Jim CDillinger gang was dead by the time John Paul Chase used the Monitor at Barrington. I've never really counted a Colt Monitor as a BAR anyway. Close tho, I guess. In Dillinger's 14 month career ( about 4 of those in jail ) there is no incidence of Dillinger or his gang using any flavor of BAR, in bank robberies, escapes, captures and other Dillinger cappers. At least as far as I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 I made 9 specially engraved receivers for the prop house to finish into full auto blank guns.They had the M1921 Colt engraving and they wanted the actors to think they were original guns. Interestingly in the picture posted by Paulsavoy the gun is a M1928A1. Also in a recent threadsomeone had photos of a gun with similar markings all the way at the left rear of the receiver. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Also in a recent threadsomeone had photos of a gun with similar markings all the way at the left rear of the receiver.I think it is this thread :http://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20064 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 an other mistake is the movie ? Capture d’écran 2018-02-16 à 18.32.05.pngGun is in semi auto mode.It is a 1928A1.No ear or eye protection. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard w. Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Johnny Depp goes to great pains to explain how you don't just spray fire with a TSMG and instead have to aim through the sights, but then they show a scene where he's "shooting" with it cocked out over his shoulder and he's flinching and closing his eyes from the noise. Super movie, anyway, though, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 an other mistake is the movie ? Capture d’écran 2018-02-16 à 18.32.05.pngGun is in semi auto mode.I would say rather on "Full Auto" and "Safe" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skittorius Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 When I had my shop in New Orleans (pre-Katrina) I used to rent out some of my inventory to the local movie industry, they really mucked up a lot of good vintage. They ruined a 1950's aqua stove, chipped and marred up the once perfect porcelain finish. They sprayed other objects/wall art with something hazy to reduce glare, was a real pain to clean off. I eventually said no to any more rentals and told them that if they wanted to use something from my shop they had to buy it. actors tear up your cars, for the scene. They used a 1936 Buick in the movie instead. Also they asked the National Crime & Punishment Museum , if they could use the original John Dillinger car, which I also owned, but had sold it to the museum, if they could take the Dillinger Essex and paint it black for the movie. The museum called me about what I thought...... " they nuts ? " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 an other mistake is the movie ? Capture d’écran 2018-02-16 à 18.32.05.pngGun is in semi auto mode.I would say rather on "Full Auto" and "Safe" !Crapper, that's what I meant. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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