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#1 Sandman1957

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:28 PM

Anyone seen many of these?Attached File  Dutch Luger 002.JPG   151.17K   49 downloads Attached File  Dutch Luger 006.JPG   201.89K   46 downloads Attached File  Dutch Luger 010.JPG   82.13K   43 downloads Attached File  Dutch Luger 013.JPG   148.64K   45 downloadsAttached File  Dutch Luger 023.JPG   197.33K   43 downloadsAttached File  Dutch Luger 020.JPG   91.06K   36 downloads

 

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 07:18 AM

Lugers...Yes. Dutch Lugers...No. I like the leather accessories with it.

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 09:42 AM

This is the only  complete set I have ever seen.  From what I can tell it is all correct.  Vet bring back, no papers.  I will circle back to his family to get more info.  I bought the gun back in 1984-85 timeframe on a whim.  Glad I did.


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 10:36 PM

Type 1906 Luger,1st contract  between the Dutch army and DWM. The fact that the Dutch proof mark is on the right side of the receiver signify's  1st contract. The order was for 1,391 pistols placed  May 1911 and delivered the next year.This one is in really good shape ,Dutch Lugers were exposed to lots of salt air and moisture.

 as they were shipped to the Dutch East Indies. It was common practice to replace the barrels every 6 to 7 years and stamp the service date on the barrel.

The fact that it has the brass tag tells us it was not an officers pistol. Marks on tag MLdep = Central Java Depot  ( Magelang Java )

The rig is a 2nd type m-11 holster. The Dutch army wanted the Luger mags to be field serviceable therefore an intricate latch was incorporated in the wooden base to allow for disassembly. Damn hard mag to find. Very nice.

I will give you $200. for the set.  :)


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 09:47 PM

Type 1906 Luger,1st contract  between the Dutch army and DWM. The fact that the Dutch proof mark is on the right side of the receiver signify's  1st contract. The order was for 1,391 pistols placed  May 1911 and delivered the next year.This one is in really good shape ,Dutch Lugers were exposed to lots of salt air and moisture.

 as they were shipped to the Dutch East Indies. It was common practice to replace the barrels every 6 to 7 years and stamp the service date on the barrel.

The fact that it has the brass tag tells us it was not an officers pistol. Marks on tag MLdep = Central Java Depot  ( Magelang Java )

The rig is a 2nd type m-11 holster. The Dutch army wanted the Luger mags to be field serviceable therefore an intricate latch was incorporated in the wooden base to allow for disassembly. Damn hard mag to find. Very nice.

I will give you $200. for the set.  :)

 

1armybrat,

 

Good stuff!

 

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#6 Sandman1957

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 10:49 PM

His knowledge on Lugers and German guns run deep!


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Posted 06 January 2018 - 04:10 PM

Type 1906 Luger,1st contract  between the Dutch army and DWM. The fact that the Dutch proof mark is on the right side of the receiver signify's  1st contract. The order was for 1,391 pistols placed  May 1911 and delivered the next year.This one is in really good shape ,Dutch Lugers were exposed to lots of salt air and moisture.
 as they were shipped to the Dutch East Indies. It was common practice to replace the barrels every 6 to 7 years and stamp the service date on the barrel.
The fact that it has the brass tag tells us it was not an officers pistol. Marks on tag MLdep = Central Java Depot  ( Magelang Java )
The rig is a 2nd type m-11 holster. The Dutch army wanted the Luger mags to be field serviceable therefore an intricate latch was incorporated in the wooden base to allow for disassembly. Damn hard mag to find. Very nice.
I will give you $200. for the set.  :)


Wow, I don’t think you could get any more detailed information. Good post.
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Posted 20 February 2018 - 09:24 PM

wow nice guns with cover. Looks so nice. Thank you!


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Posted 06 March 2018 - 06:57 AM

One gun I have always wanted but I have never let go of the money to have one.


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Posted 19 March 2018 - 02:02 PM

That is a lovely rig, wish I could find one for my collection. I have two, (deactivated, as they are in the UK),  Dutch P06's in my collection, for that reason I have done some research on them and they have an interesting history.

 

They were bought for the Royal Netherlands Indies Army (K.N.I.L.) as 1armyBrat rightly points out, during the period that the Dutch began oil exploration in the East Indies Colonies.

 

The requirement to arm the East Indies colonies grew after WWI, requiring additional side arms. However, due to restrictions in place against Germany to manufacture weapons in military 9mm calibre, DWM subcontracted the UK Company Vickers, to fulfil the immediate post war Dutch contract. In 1919 Vickers received the order 6,000 Pistool M11’s, which was completed in 1921/23. I have just managed to add a 'VICKERS LTD' marked forward toggle link to my collection. 

A third Dutch contract was placed and honoured by DWM in 1928, the 2nd example in my collection was part of this contract.

​A characteristic of the Dutch M.11's , a peculiarity only found on the Dutch contract Parabellums, is "GELADEN" ,(safe), is stamped on both sides of the extractor.

During my research, I read that Lugers were issued to the Northern Australian Observer Unit (2/1 NAOU) in WW2, largely due to a shortage of service revolvers which were required for OS service. These were originally believed to be captured German Lugers, however, these could have been DWM or Vickers contract Luger’s from the Dutch East-Indies sent to Australia when the Dutch East-Indies fell. No doubt many fell into the hands of the Japanese too, as did many Dutch Thompsons. Again I read that Japanese war time records were found to list 723 Thompsons captured on Java.

​My two pennith worth,  before I shut down for the next few weeks, due to limited internet access.

 

Stay safe

Richard 


Edited by rpbcps, 19 March 2018 - 02:56 PM.

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 07:13 AM

That's beautiful
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