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#1 Hopalong

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 11:06 AM

I recently applied for a C&R so the seller of the Thompson M1A1 I purchased can ship it directly to me once the form 4 is approved. Obviously, once the C&R is approved I want to jump on the form 4 application ASAP.

My dilemma is that none of the law enforcement agencies in my county are offering fingerprinting services due to the coronavirus, nor can they tell me when they're going to resume.

Has anyone here tried rolling their own prints, and if so, did you have any problems with ATF accepting them? Thanks.
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#2 Robert Henley

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 12:27 PM

I recall a post not too long ago, maybe a year or so ago, in which this was discussed.  One poster indicated he rolled his own prints without a problem.  You might search to see if you can find the post.

 

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 12:42 PM

I rolled several of my form 4 and had a retired policeman roll a few., never had a reject.

Only reject was one the local police did.

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 01:11 PM

Thanks,guys.

Jim, how long of a delay did the rejected prints cause?

Edited by Hopalong, 31 May 2020 - 01:12 PM.

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 01:53 PM

Hoppy,

Fortunately, no delay.

At that moment in time I had 2 sets in, a silencer and a Tommy. I mentioned this fact to the lady and she discovered one set had passed.

So she kindly put both items thru on the good prints.

Next time I'm temped to criticize Federal employees , I always remember her.

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#6 Petroleum 1

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 07:09 AM

You can buy the finger print stuff on amazon.


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#7 Frank Iannamico

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 08:50 AM

The UPS Store here used to do fingerprints, not sure if they still do.


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#8 Petroleum 1

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 10:26 AM

I get my prints done at a mailbox store its very convenient.


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Posted 02 June 2020 - 05:04 AM

I roll my own

They dont come out as nice but they do accept and approve my stamps w them. I also do my own mug shot. Printer paper.
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Posted 03 June 2020 - 08:38 AM

If you can find a local law enforcement agency that does the prints with LIVE SCAN it's a great option.  For the uninitiated there is a small glass plate in a device hooked up to a computer.  The prints are rolled on the glass, scanned, and approved when the program gets enough points for the necessary classification.  When complete the ATF applicant card is inserted into the printer and prints out the card along with your information.  No ink, no smudges, no rejections.


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#11 Hopalong

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Posted 03 June 2020 - 09:39 AM

If you can find a local law enforcement agency that does the prints with LIVE SCAN it's a great option.  For the uninitiated there is a small glass plate in a device hooked up to a computer.  The prints are rolled on the glass, scanned, and approved when the program gets enough points for the necessary classification.  When complete the ATF applicant card is inserted into the printer and prints out the card along with your information.  No ink, no smudges, no rejections.

 

Thanks.  I didn't realize that LIVE SCAN was an option.


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Posted 03 June 2020 - 12:31 PM

I've rolled my own

Never had a rejection...

No smudges and stay in the lines...

Helps to use a card holder


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Posted 04 June 2020 - 07:51 AM

If you roll your own make sure you use the FD258 FBI print cards.
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Posted 04 June 2020 - 10:47 AM

If you roll your own make sure you use the FD258 FBI print cards.


Thanks. ATF distribution center is sending me the cards.
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Posted 04 June 2020 - 02:40 PM

https://www.national...k-through-guide

 

Link at the bottom to get free cards


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Posted 04 June 2020 - 03:21 PM

https://www.national...k-through-guide
 
Link at the bottom to get free cards


Thanks. ATF is sending them free of charge.
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Posted 09 June 2020 - 03:57 PM

No police department is open here, either and but just found a company who just opened back up.

I'm guessing this may have slowed down Form 4 submissions a bit recently as many people don't try themselves?


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Posted 10 June 2020 - 09:10 AM

No police department is open here, either and but just found a company who just opened back up.
I'm guessing this may have slowed down Form 4 submissions a bit recently as many people don't try themselves?


I found a local business that does LIVE SCAN and transfers the prints onto the cards. The seller is signing the form 4 applications and mailing them back to me. Hopefully, I will have everything ready to mail to ATF by next week.
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Posted 14 June 2020 - 12:03 PM

If you can find a local law enforcement agency that does the prints with LIVE SCAN it's a great option.  For the uninitiated there is a small glass plate in a device hooked up to a computer.  The prints are rolled on the glass, scanned, and approved when the program gets enough points for the necessary classification.  When complete the ATF applicant card is inserted into the printer and prints out the card along with your information.  No ink, no smudges, no rejections.


Roger, thank you. I did this Friday, and it worked very well. It was quick, and it only cost me $10 for each of the two cards. I also had my photos taken that morning at CVS Pharmacy, which cost $16, and the form 4 application went into the mail that afternoon.
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Posted 19 June 2020 - 01:07 AM

Worst case scenario if your fingerprint cards are not good, they would just inform you and you have to send replacements.

 

Also I found out from some FFLs, that they print the photo of the person directly on the Form 4.  I was surprised to hear that.  Another savings!


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