rpbcps Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) There are a number of dealers in the UK selling Thompson oilers with felt insert pads at the moment, the adverts state the purpose of the pad was to prevent the oiler rattling about. I was curious if any of the 1928 / 28A1 stocks I have, had any felt inserts pads in them. Only one of the six stocks I have, had the insert pads in it, but it did not have one, it had three felt insert pads, see attached. Can anyone confirm how many felt insert pads should be found in each stock, if any, or were they issued on an individual basis with the oilers? I have three WW2 Oilers, so I guess I have one pad for each of them now Stay safe Richard Edited March 26, 2017 by rpbcps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 rpbcps, There were normally three (3) felt donuts in each stock. They are usually missing from the stocks currently for sale. The original Colt buttstocks each had three (3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Boy, I learn something every day. I would hav said one. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Bob,I am with you. I would have never thought three. Hats off to gijive! TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 One felt was used for the M1/M1A1 guns to prevent the oiler from rattling. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted March 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Giive,That'll explain why I found three in that stock then, thank you for the information. I never checked the 1921 stock I have, I'll do that when I get a chance. Stay safeRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted March 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 There are felt pads in all three M1/M1A1 stocks I have, but my 1921 does not have any Stay safeRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 There are felt pads in all three M1/M1A1 stocks I have, but my 1921 does not have any Stay safeRichardRichard, That's too bad. The felt donuts on the Colt Thompson stocks I have observed are a slightly darker gray color than the horsehair brown color of the WWII felt spacers. Just my observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted March 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 There are felt pads in all three M1/M1A1 stocks I have, but my 1921 does not have any Stay safeRichardRichard, That's too bad. The felt donuts on the Colt Thompson stocks I have observed are a slightly darker gray color than the horsehair brown color of the WWII felt spacers. Just my observation. GI Jive,Too bad indeed, but that stock is attached to a Model of 1921, that has been through the 'wars'. It would have been one of the 653 Thompsons bought for the IRA back in 1921 ad therefore either spent years in storage in NJ, prior to being shipped to Ireland in the mid 1920's, or it may have been one that evaded capture in NJ. Like a lot of former IRA Thompsons, it has the typical ‘IRA finish’, due to spending extended periods below ground, in far from perfect storage conditions. If the felt donuts had not been 'lost' during this time, perhaps it was during the UK deactivation process they were removed. Have a good weekendRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Felt Washers Revisited: I just checked the three (3) Colt buttstocks I have and learned something new. Two (2) of the stocks have four (4) felt washers each and these stocks are original, untouched for years. One (1) stock, originally from a 1928 Navy Model, has the cut-out for an Enfield Type swivel and is an original factory modification. The gun was shipped to the PD that owned it that way. This stock only has three (3) felt washers. Two of the washers appear to stuck together from gun oil leaking on them. Anyway, four (4) washers per stock on the Colt guns appears to be the correct total. Buttstock # 1 Buttstock # 2 Buttstock # 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 While were on the topic of Colt oiler felt washers, I'm in the market for an original Colt era oiler.If your interested in selling one, PM me.Thanks,Darryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 (edited) Felt Washers Revisited: I just checked the three (3) Colt buttstocks I have and learned something new. Two (2) of the stocks have four (4) felt washers each and these stocks are original, untouched for years. One (1) stock, originally from a 1928 Navy Model, has the cut-out for an Enfield Type swivel and is an original factory modification. The gun was shipped to the PD that owned it that way. This stock only has three (3) felt washers. Two of the washers appear to stuck together from gun oil leaking on them. Anyway, four (4) washers per stock on the Colt guns appears to be the correct total. Chuck, Original Colt Navy TSMG with Enfield swivels buttstock with the (4) four felt washers where one appears to be two stuck together. Depth of oiler in stock with 4 pads: Edited April 1, 2017 by Arthur Fliegenheimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Maybe one washer was cut longer than the other 3 originally? David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Maybe one washer was cut longer than the other 3 originally? David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.comDave, I think that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Maybe one washer was cut longer than the other 3 originally? David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.comDave, I think that is the case. No doubt the engineers factored in the drag coefficient of the pad(s) to the oiler bottle to ensure the bottle would protrude just below the buttstock cap. In other words, they felt a felt washer could go the distance of being twice as long as the other three.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry Ploughboy Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Do you suppose that the Colt felt washers were made from virgin wool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Do you suppose that the Colt felt washers were made from virgin wool? And to reduce weight they soaked them in Woolite®. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 I can't complain about the geekyness of this thread, as I probably have researched the type of toenail clippers Dillinger used. ( Acme BTW ) OCM ( Sir Chopper's Pal ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted April 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 I can't complain about the geekyness of this thread, as I probably have researched the type of toenail clippers Dillinger used. ( Acme BTW ) OCM ( Sir Chopper's Pal ) And that is what I love about this site. Ask a question and some very knowledgeable members will provide the answers, "leaving no stone unturned", and the items found under those stones, gone through with a fine tooth comb. As Buzz stated in another post recently " This site is invaluable for a Thompson collector. An endless stream of information". Thanks again to all those board members that take their time to provide information, educating those of us with less knowledge, with the details we may otherwise have missed. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSU Tiger Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 I found this thread during a search for info on the felt plugs used to space the oiler in the buttstock. My question is, where can these be found? I cannot recall ever seeing them for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry Ploughboy Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) I found this thread during a search for info on the felt plugs used to space the oiler in the buttstock. My question is, where can these be found? I cannot recall ever seeing them for sale. Try here: https://www.tommyguncollectibles.com/accessories-2/ or here: https://www.ima-usa.com/products/original-u-s-wwii-thompson-smg-butt-well-cushion?variant=26168010757 Be well. Edited August 17, 2019 by Merry Ploughboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 LSU Tiger,International Military Antiques (IMA) has them. Search under Thompson and scroll down the list, youll find them. They show as being in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSU Tiger Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Thanks, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Chopper Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Try Phil Askew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Every stock I checked also mirrored Chucks's excellent photos. The subject (Gray vs Brown) definitely belongs in AAGFTCTSG Vol. II Thought I heard a loud groan -maybe from somewhere in Kentucky? Fortunately, it's not Gray vs Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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