UK Armourer Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Guys, I must apologise for my previous postings where I gave very little follow up. We had a family berevement and it threw up a whole lot of issues which I'm only just getting on top of...... Anyhow, I have found a manufacturer here in Europe that is making CNC AR15 type lower receivers which are excellent. I spoke with him in regard to manufacturing BM-59/62 receivers from scratch (steel actually, but you know). He was very keen to do so and would machine them quite quickly IF he had CAD drawings of an M1 Garand receiver and a set of BM-59 conversion drawings! If anyone knows of a source or has a set of either and would be willing to let the drawings be used it may just expand the 'family' so to speak... He would be willing to build 80% receivers too so that export to the USA would be legal. Let me know if anyone can help. Cheers, Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebaker1129 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 SARCO has the prints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Armourer Posted April 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Hi Mike, thanks for the info. Yes, I know Sarco advertises the 'conversion' prints but does anyone in the group have a copy and can vouch for their acuracy, and worth? Are they Beretta Factory drawings or someones 'doodlings'? Cheers, Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebaker1129 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Sorry I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinone Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Vic The drawings that sarco sells where done by a engineer that worked for the US Navy Weapon Laboratory at the time. Sarco sent a BM59 receiver to him to work from. That been maybe 30 years ago or longer. Sarco gave him 4 E kits for doing the drawings. Which he still has the 4 like new BM59e that he did frrom his drawing.Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Armourer Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Hi Jim, OK, thanks for the info. It gives me some confidence that the drawings should be of such a quality that I may buy a set! Cheers, Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordmm Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 One of my customers bought the Sarco drawing set. Although he did not have a BM59 to reference he was able to machine a receiver which functions quite well. He has a machine shop, and is an accomplished machinest. But, is not a gunsmith. His machining skills are, and are applied in other areas. I have looked at the Sarco drawings. When I first looked at them I felt the drawing were done by some department of the U.S. gov't due to the style. After reading the other post about the Navy connection now I know how to account for the style of the drawings. Some areas of the drawing are too small, and the way they make the copy, are hard if not impossible to read. Would be nice if Sarco would have some real good copies made. My best advise is to go with the Sarco drawings. And if you have access to a Beretta receiver have a CMM type inspection layout done and compare the drawings to the CMM results. Down side is this all costs serious money. Of course this is all just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Armourer Posted April 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) OK, well I guess if Sarco doesn't make a good copy of the original drawings then the issue of getting a set from them is a little academic! I have a number of 'cut' genuine BM-59 receivers and complete M1 Garand receivers so I think I will backwards engineer the drawings myself... Cheers, Vic Edited April 18, 2012 by UK Armourer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winbar Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Vic,You mentioned you have cut BM59 receiver pieces. Are the stripper clip guides dovetailed to the receiver? If they are, is the dovetail blind-ended? Have you tried to remove a charger guide?Thanks,Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordmm Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I would think the greatest percentage of the Garand receiver is unmodified by Beretta. High quality Garand recevier drawings are available from Eric Nicolaus. Would it maybe be easier to use the GI recevier drawings and them modify the part of the print that was modified by Beretta? The critical points such as barrel thread timing and safety bridge locations would be the same I would think. http://www.nicolausassociates.com/M1_Garand.htm If you click on the sample receiver drawing view you'll get a real good idea of what he offers. Have also sourced full size prings from him in the past. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRJ Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Doug - RE:Your question on stripper clip fitting I have never removed a '59 stripper clip guide but have had a machinist mill dovetails into the top of M1 receivers. We did not weld over the left end of the cut as Beretta did to improve appearance. Beretta finished this area nicely on rifles they did. MRJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winbar Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 MRJ,Thanks for the response. It doesn't look like the early ones were done that way. (Welding rod is cheaper than silver solder?)Thanks,Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinone Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 VicCould you send me your mailing address to spinoni1@ verizon.netThanksJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Armourer Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) Hi Jim, email address sent direct... Vic Edited April 27, 2012 by UK Armourer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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