huggytree Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) have an opportunity to grab a AM180 and i believe its aftermarket wood not sure if it helps or hurts value any opinions? Edited January 23, 2019 by huggytree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1957 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Yes that is aftermarket wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 on a AM180 is aftermarket wood a + or - ? its kinda in that middle price point and is a bit historical...vs a mac....seller claims metal finish is original..its a show gun for sure not sure if its historical enough for finish to matter....to me it is the wood might be a neutral---someone else might pay extra for it....im sure someone would swap me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speeddemon02 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 It should not add anything to the price, but the wood itself is very nice looking in the pictures. How it feels in hand is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkel Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) That wood looks better then the original. I don't think it adds or subtracts to the value. Does it run? How many drums and what type included? Edited January 23, 2019 by timkel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) I think at some point Val had custom wood available back in the day? Maybe that's where it came from? I don't care for that particular wood personally, but Val may have new wood sets available? I don't see an add or detract pricewise. A lot of the guns came with plastic furniture, so any wood is an upgrade from that. I'm sure a new set could be made reasonably since it's not overly complicated. The metal looks original, but the barrel pattern may be a newer style? There are some differences in receiver series and I'd verify which series/ mfr it is. I'd have to check and see what my short original looks like (packed away), but I don't recall it being finned? They are kind of finicky like any rimfire, but since you burn so many rounds so quickly the issues seem to crop up faster, but it's really more a matter of round count and cleaning. My first choice would be a 10/22 and that's what I usually start kids on before I move them to other subguns. A better value IMO all things considered even though the price is generally higher. If you get it you need a long barrel and I have an original laser spare I might sell...cool display! Not so practical! Edited January 24, 2019 by johnsonlmg41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Ive sent pics to Val for evsluation If he can determine from pics that its been through his shop i will offer on it Id prefer the original wood, drum and barrel. Let me know if the barrel is factory or not? The laser barrel would be very cool 1980s tech Price is very good but add a trip to Val plus $350 for an original drum and its not that great of a deal anymore Its interesting to me. I usually see what I want and grab it. In this case Im not sure I even want to get into full auto 22 Ive got almost all my guns running flawless with 1 problem child still. 22 FA will always be a problem child most likely Hard to pay so much for a 22. I like its police history Edited January 24, 2019 by huggytree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstidan Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 The pictured barrel is a subgun/shorty barrel that was marketed by Val. The wood is definately been refinished. It may be original and streaked to get that exotic look. I have three different length barrels for my AM-180, rifle length, carbine length, and subgun length. Be aware that the barrel fittings are different depending on the generation of the AM-180. The generation can be determined by the prefix of the weapon's serial number. I have a "D" prefix, fourth generation, AM-180. With a 275 round drum installed I can get a 12.5 second burst. Cheap shooting fun to be sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 This one is a B generation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 The B series is the more desirable.....I cannot recall why though...? I think parts availability? Or aftermarket feedblock availabilty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 im gonna pass on this one....asking price may be decent...but repro barrel, wood, missing the drum im looking for bargains only right now....-$2k to -$3k and finding them....this one is too close to normal market price for me....and im not that excited over it.... one showed up on MGC for $12,000 mint w/ Austria markings....not sure if its an A block or an early B block w/ a Austrian barrel....that to me is a much nicer gun if im going to pay a full price ill sit back and watch for a while....maybe with 4-5 of them out there right now someone will lower the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 The B series is the more desirable.....I cannot recall why though...? I think parts availability? Or aftermarket feedblock availabilty?quality dropped after the B series subcontracted out..company bought/sold/moved from talking to val for 5 mins i found out there's pot metal parts in it.....so it never was a high quality gun to start with...then again .22lr doesnt need to be since my .22AR is plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerD Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 I shoot mine once or twice a month. The guns are particular about ammo. I use CCI Blazer. Also the 9" barrel requires the metal floor plate to keep the Lexan drums from melting. Keep'em clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Wow... One of my stock sets hits the market. I built that set a few years ago. It's English Walnut and the owner wanted the nicest stock blank I could find. I found a $2500 blank on California! If you don't want it I'll trade you straight across for a factory set! I also built Val a batch of front grips a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted February 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 i passed on the gun...it was cheap, but not cheap enough for me to buy....we were $750 apart on the final price no counter offer was made back to me.....not a gun im into or can be excited about....would have been fun once or twice a year at a bargain price though...probably sold already what did you charge for that set of wood? $2500??? WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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