paulsavoy Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Hi,Sorry if this question has already been asked before, is there a webpage or topic here for identify a 1928 or 1928 A1 production year with its serial number ? thanks paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineverlistentoFM Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 ranges are listed in Ultimate Thompson Book by Mr. Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted February 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Thanks,is there a way online ?there is a demilitarized 1928 for sale (French legal conversion), and i would like to know if it is an interesting model.could the serial number S.35817 be considered as a "low number" ?also is the rear "L" sight common on 1928s ? Edited January 20, 2018 by paulsavoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Great proof marks! A serial number that low is absolutely a "low number" gun, and originally had the Lyman adjustable sight. The milled (smooth) ejector was also used only on the early production guns. Can you send more photos? Edited February 21, 2014 by mnshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 This gun should have the no hole mag catch and a knurled fire control lever to be correct. I think it's a great gun, maybe even a Brit home guard gun? Is it or will be a display gun only or a live gun? I need my morning coffee. Darryl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Nice avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted February 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Thanks guys It is demilitarized, non firing but moving parts, alas it had just been sold !i already have 1928 A1 demilitarized, so i would like to have 1928 ! Nice avatarDLansky are you Star Trek fan too ? Edited February 21, 2014 by paulsavoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 That is certainly a low numbered Savage Thompson with a New York address on the right side of the receiver. Serial numbers for the Savage Thompsons started in the 15,000 serial number range so it is easy to do the math. As Darryl states above, the fire control lever and magazine catch are not correct. It would be interesting to know if the frame serial number matched the receiver. The L type rear sight and re-enforced butt stock are not correct and another indication this Thompson has been rebuilt in the past. The vertical fore grip also looks like a modern reproduction. The markings could probably be deciphered with a copy of American Thunder II. Thank you for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3bobby Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Isn't the W stamp the Weedon mark? So British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Great proof marks! A serial number that low is absolutely a "low number" gun, and originally had the Lyman adjustable sight. The milled (smooth) ejector was also used only on the early production guns. Can you send more photos? Very nice. I'd love to see the right side of the receiver. Sorry you lost it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted February 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) Very nice. I'd love to see the right side of the receiver. Sorry you lost it... here Bug ... yes missed, i took too much time reflection sorry photo lost by "photobucket"http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh209/paulsavoy/Divers%20Forum/928-NEUTRALISEEe3010_zps69ca355b.jpg Edited January 20, 2018 by paulsavoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanDavid Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Isn't the W stamp the Weedon mark? So British.Yes it is known by collectors as the Woolwick mark and was applied by British inspectors at the factory in America. The actual stamp is illustrated in a booklet on marks and stamps used by the Woolwich Inspectorate. I have two copies of this, one dated 1918 and the other 1939. Its a nice early Savage 'cash & carry' gun. If David sees this post I would like to start a Sticky/Survey for serial numbers of Savage guns with the 'Woolwich' mark. I know a few other guys would be keen for this to happen. Regards AlanDSydney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 That is certainly a low numbered Savage Thompson with a New York address on the right side of the receiver. Serial numbers for the Savage Thompsons started in the 15,000 serial number range so it is easy to do the math. As Darryl states above, the fire control lever and magazine catch are not correct. It would be interesting to know if the frame serial number matched the receiver. The L type rear sight and re-enforced butt stock are not correct and another indication this Thompson has been rebuilt in the past. The vertical fore grip also looks like a modern reproduction. The markings could probably be deciphered with a copy of American Thunder II. Thank you for sharing!Thanks TDseems you had see the original listing and your deductions are very interesting. I don't know if i messed something : I found the same seller has sold this same number SMG on past december 9...i did email him question, but no answer yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted March 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Back on this topic after a year, I finally found my 1928 (not A1 ! ) New york production with "low" number 32850 (sorry demilitarized )seems very better that the one i missed : correct magazine catch and selectors, matching numbers, probably original front grip (?)but butt stock not correct... sincerelyPaul Edited January 20, 2018 by paulsavoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgvince Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Great looking gun. What was done to demilitarize it? Nice you don't have to chop it up like here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted March 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) What was done to demilitarize it ? Ejector and extractor cut, bolt cut at 45° with firing pin welded, hole in the barrel (now, new specification done more holes)engraved punch on barrel, receiver and frame to prove the approved work.note : here receiver is intact ! Edited January 20, 2018 by paulsavoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 I would be happy to have that 1928 in my collection. Very nice to see the upper and lower serial number matches. I think the gun was made in October 1940. I would be interested to know if there is an inspectors proof mark on the right side of the receiver near the witness mark for the barrel. I expect there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted March 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) I would be interested to know if there is an inspectors proof mark on the right side of the receiver near the witness mark for the barrel. I expect there is. here ? Edited January 20, 2018 by paulsavoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Yes, that's it. I thought it might, by chance, match the inspectors stamp on mine. It didn't though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA540 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hi All, I'm a newbie here. I'm in the process of getting a 1928 A1 Savage, Bridgeport gun. I'm just patiently awaiting the ATF paperwork to get through. I am also trying to ascertain when my gun was produced. It is marked, U.S. MODEL OF 1928 A1. It's a matching number gun in the S-530xxx range. It has the magazine release with the 'hole' in it. Can anyone help me out ? Thanks, Rich............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I think it'll be suggested that you start your own thread and post pictures (tommy guns are our porn) so it can be analyzed. If you haven't already I'd suggest buying a copy of American Thunder III that was just released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Mills Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I agree, do start another thread dedicated to your "new" Thompson. We all enjoy seeing and hearing about new acquisitions and this is the place with a whole lot of good answers...and opinions Welcome! PS: Yes, get American Thunder III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted January 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Hi,I added to this topic, because my message upper (07 march 2015) has photos of my 1928 "not A1".there is actually for sale in France a deactivated 1928 Savage 106213, but Bridgeport (not New York).So I'm lost with those 2 "1928 not A1" variations !thanks in advancePaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Hi,I added to this topic, because my message upper (07 march 2015) has photos of my 1928 "not A1".there is actually for sale in France a deactivated 1928 Savage 106213, but Bridgeport (not New York).So I'm lost with those 2 "1928 not A1" variations !thanks in advancePaul 106213-15.jpg 106213-17.jpgThat sounds correct What exactly is your question? A poster here (TD) has an excellent book with much info on these early Savage guns. Well worth the $$. Bob D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsavoy Posted January 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Sorry for my English : I mean I'm confuse with 1928 chronology and production.I was thinking that 1928 production was before A1, so is the numbering or the 1928 independent of the numbering of the 1928A1 or mixed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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