lpedersen Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Found an old Roger Cox Law Enforcement Ordnance Company catalog and price list from July 10,1975 at the antique store over the weekend.Prices don't look too bad until you factor the average salary back then was about $6.00 an hour.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 That list did bring back some good memories. picked up those AR-10's and #9131 and #5294 and cases and other Items.and a few 1921ac's before the list popped. Have a few Polaroids from that stash. Probably 50 guns against the walls in one room. RON K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Great information! Plus 1. Thank you for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Excellent info! I wish he had the s/n listed for the 1918 Colt BAR.JimC351 might want to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firearm Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Thanks for the post. I wonder if that is where the incorrect info on #4843 came from? Cox has noted that #4843 is marked O.C.S.D. #2, when in fact it is O.C.S.D. #1. #4309 is #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattnh Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Wow - what a stash of 21s...Way cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHollow Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 That list did bring back some good memories. picked up those AR-10's and #9131 and #5294 and cases and other Items.and a few 1921ac's before the list popped. Have a few Polaroids from that stash. Probably 50 guns against the walls in one room. RON K. Ron: Did you buy AR10 000481 and 007704 ? These were not on the list you sent me years ago. I now have one of the two. I recall you did get the semi S000021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimcrew Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Dang, they even had a 1927 available! Wish I could buy that MG42 for $650 now, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 The whole batch went to Reed.Along with #21 And a single gun went to a guy in Florida.I had the Interarms list from Danny When it went to see Sam. and had a copy of the receipt of all Numbers brought it. {Which trying to locate now} in a five drawer file cabinet of paper yikes.One of my main problems is Having over three different ffl's and changing them out.Many items got sent in to the gov.And did not make copies of some stuff.And since it was over 30 plus years ago.And i am one of two guys left out of the six that did the deals back when,And one is 78 now.Roger had showed me a ton of stuff when i spent the day there,I ended up with the drum and the case from the cover page of the book from 1982....Many thought it went out with #5290. It did not. The new C drum in the box with wax wrap and loading card tied with string was great. I think Warren ended up with that later on.A Fischer drum Or whatever named one was laying around.I have one box left. BOUGHT FROM MILLS HERE on the forum.And a flyer and a original color catalog. The Colt B.A.R.in that pic is being held by Marty O'Toole,On the back page and on the car on the front, I had a 1919 Colt Commercial later on from Republic Steel. They used to guard the payrolls with. And a real nice Winchester #11289 Along with many other BARS.... Yes real good times.. Before it became all about the Money, And what was just a love for the history and the deal. I never forget good Old Hal Spiro. Kissing a Colt when he came over to Look at a bunch of Thompsons at my place.He was a good guy and passed way too young. Well back to the hot brew and some soothing jazz.RON K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Interesting to see how few BARs were listed compared to Thompsons of all models.Maybe Roger wasn't interested in BARs or maybe BARs are scarce as hens teeth. GP4, my Colt was accounted for in possession of some one else at the time.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl7422 Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Interesting to see Remington Model 31 SBS's (AOW?) pistol-grip listed. Swarengen references them but I've never seen a transferrable mentioned. Good to know there are some out there. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Roger told me he bought them when he found them in Pd's and they did not have many out there in the midwest.My Hunt was always for a Monitor.And after i came across my 1919 And went to pick it up in Indiana, Came across a Colt Monitor owned by a Indiana P.D. That was in a private collection. It was all original and in Mint cond.I offered John $10 grand on the spot for it he said Great offer but no thanks not for sale at that time. {He is still around and still owns it} and this was probably around 1988 . At that time regular BAR'S brought in around $3,000 or so.sometimes higher. depending on finish and originality.The amount of guns i went thru. was crazy.But it was fun times. And i enjoyed it. And we will never return to it.RON K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firearm Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 The whole batch went to Reed.Along with #21 And a single gun went to a guy in Florida.I had the Interarms list from Danny When it went to see Sam. and had a copy of the receipt of all Numbers brought it. {Which trying to locate now} in a five drawer file cabinet of paper yikes.One of my main problems is Having over three different ffl's and changing them out.Many items got sent in to the gov.And did not make copies of some stuff.And since it was over 30 plus years ago.And i am one of two guys left out of the six that did the deals back when,And one is 78 now.Roger had showed me a ton of stuff when i spent the day there,I ended up with the drum and the case from the cover page of the book from 1982....Many thought it went out with #5290. It did not. The new C drum in the box with wax wrap and loading card tied with string was great. I think Warren ended up with that later on.A Fischer drum Or whatever named one was laying around.I have one box left. BOUGHT FROM MILLS HERE on the forum.And a flyer and a original color catalog. The Colt B.A.R.in that pic is being held by Marty O'Toole,On the back page and on the car on the front, I had a 1919 Colt Commercial later on from Republic Steel. They used to guard the payrolls with. And a real nice Winchester #11289 Along with many other BARS.... 5yttnyg.jpg Yes real good times.. Before it became all about the Money, And what was just a love for the history and the deal. I never forget good Old Hal Spiro. Kissing a Colt when he came over to Look at a bunch of Thompsons at my place.He was a good guy and passed way too young. Well back to the hot brew and some soothing jazz.RON K. That was more than 30 years ago. More like 45 years ago! In July of 1975 gold was about $165 per ounce. Today it is almost 10 times that amount. Take one of those 21's at an average price of $2000 to $2500 and you will see it has outpaced gold in dollar appreciation by twice that amount. A nice BAR even more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawk64 Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) My dad bought a new 1976 Datsun standard pick up for $3600. Yellow. Edited January 22, 2020 by mohawk64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkel Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) In 1975 I was making $4/hr. Those prices were a lot of money at the time. But prices aside, the variety of models available was a golden era. Edited January 22, 2020 by timkel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 1975 over 50 g year and was always broke.,Because i wanted to buy everything, And many times did. and it was a ton of fun.And we are all heading in the same direction no matter what you have now or did have.So enjoy it.RON K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertord Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 To Serve Man, it's... it's a cookbook!" 🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANS Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Came across a Colt Monitor owned by a Indiana P.D. Ron, do you remember which department that was? I'm trying to assemble a list of all original purchasers of the Monitors. Many thanks! Cheers HANS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 I'd like to know the number of the PD 1907 Winchester in 351. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1921A Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 The two 21ACs on page 2 from Fort Wayne, IN started my Thompson addiction. A friend of the family was a Fort Wayne Police Officer. Got to watch him fire the gun once when I was a kid. It made a lasting impression. I wonder where they are now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Cox had a number of competitors in the search for and acquisition of Colt Thompsons in those days, not the least of which was J. C. Earl from whom I purchased a Thompson, a Sing Sing auction refuge '28 overstamp, in '70 or '71. Other high profile dealers chasing these guns were Miller, Rudin, and Perry and with all of whom I did some business, acquiring a '21A from Rudin at a much lower price than the others. Rudin's murder by his wife with a registered NFA weapon is an interesting story. I have some lists, literature and a letter or two still from Cox from early '70s about buying an MG34 for $200, a gun I still own. Just out of college, low on cash but with a burning desire for MGs, I phoned, went to as many shows as I could and traveled to see dealers to talk about, handle and ogle guns. It just never goes away. FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Rudin's murder by his wife with a registered NFA weapon is an interesting story. "Margaret Rudin was released on parole from the Florence McClure Women’s Correctional Center in North Las Vegas on January 10, 2020.' https://www.ktnv.com/13-investigates/some-terrified-as-infamous-killer-margaret-rudin-is-set-for-release-from-prisonocal/las-vegas-black-widow-killer-margaret-rudin-released-on-parole/article_ea1263fa-33c6-11ea-9f15-ffca1a5139d5.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 And finding Rons head in the desert was nasty. he was a nice guy did Bizz with him and miller and Perry for well over 20 years,But we also know the story on Rogers Wife sad tale there.Earl had the 45 auto that did her in.RON K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firearm Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Rudin's murder by his wife with a registered NFA weapon is an interesting story. download.jpg "Margaret Rudin was released on parole from the Florence McClure Women’s Correctional Center in North Las Vegas on January 10, 2020.' https://www.ktnv.com/13-investigates/some-terrified-as-infamous-killer-margaret-rudin-is-set-for-release-from-prisonocal/las-vegas-black-widow-killer-margaret-rudin-released-on-parole/article_ea1263fa-33c6-11ea-9f15-ffca1a5139d5.htmlCouldn't get that link to work. Here is another: https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/i-did-not-do-it-convicted-killer-margaret-rudin-says-in-first-interview-after-release-1932623/ No mention of him being murdered with an NFA weapon. Anyone know what kind of NFA weapon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarvin Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 The whole batch went to Reed.Along with #21 And a single gun went to a guy in Florida.I had the Interarms list from Danny When it went to see Sam. and had a copy of the receipt of all Numbers brought it. {Which trying to locate now} in a five drawer file cabinet of paper yikes.One of my main problems is Having over three different ffl's and changing them out.Many items got sent in to the gov.And did not make copies of some stuff.And since it was over 30 plus years ago.And i am one of two guys left out of the six that did the deals back when,And one is 78 now.Roger had showed me a ton of stuff when i spent the day there,I ended up with the drum and the case from the cover page of the book from 1982....Many thought it went out with #5290. It did not. The new C drum in the box with wax wrap and loading card tied with string was great. I think Warren ended up with that later on.A Fischer drum Or whatever named one was laying around.I have one box left. BOUGHT FROM MILLS HERE on the forum.And a flyer and a original color catalog. The Colt B.A.R.in that pic is being held by Marty O'Toole,On the back page and on the car on the front, I had a 1919 Colt Commercial later on from Republic Steel. They used to guard the payrolls with. And a real nice Winchester #11289 Along with many other BARS.... 5yttnyg.jpg Yes real good times.. Before it became all about the Money, And what was just a love for the history and the deal. I never forget good Old Hal Spiro. Kissing a Colt when he came over to Look at a bunch of Thompsons at my place.He was a good guy and passed way too young. Well back to the hot brew and some soothing jazz.RON K. Warren did have a NIB C drum. I bought it from him many years ago. It's since moved on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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