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#1 bob241

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 07:38 AM

Real deal, or just another fake?

 

                       https://www.ebay.com...321?hash=item2c


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#2 Bridgeport28A1

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 08:22 AM

It is sold as is, wording of ad never claims it is original, WW2 or Savage production. The ads wording makes me wary of its originality.

Ill let the Thompson wood experts comment on the grip itself.
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#3 TD.

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 08:56 AM

It has a sanded refinished look to me. Note how the "S" marking does not have serifs. I believe the "S" marking on known original Savage grips have the old style serifs. Those with original Savage fore grips can chime in.  


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#4 mnshooter

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 10:00 AM

Agree with TD.

 

Poorly sanded and refinished. 

Can't tell which brand of polyurethane they used.

All of my S marked wood has the serifs.


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Posted 02 November 2018 - 11:19 AM

My concern is the lack of a sharper angle at the top front of the grip, maybe due to sanding?  The other concern is the lack of serifs on the stamped S.  Maybe with whatever finish someone put on the grip it is hard to see the serifs?  I think the grip has a chance, but I would have to see it in person.  If I was purchasing it I would definitely insist on a return privilege.  Not the best comparison (below) since my Savage grip is rather worn and beat up.  Maybe someone with a nicer Savage grip can post pictures?

 

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Edited by gijive, 02 November 2018 - 11:20 AM.

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#6 Banjo

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 12:09 PM

Nice job but I agree with TD I have done a lot of research on that little S and have never seen one that size in that font.  Presenting it in the wax paper is a nice touch though.


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Posted 02 November 2018 - 05:29 PM

Here are more pictures of an original.

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 06:48 PM

unsanded original- mine----ive held (2) original finish/ unsanded grips in my hands and compared them. they were not a perfect match. each grip is unique, so dont get anal on very subtle differences. over all it should look like the ones pic'd below

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 06:10 AM

im 100% sure this is a West Hurley grip who have been forged to looks like a Savage grip. Its too wide, the holes are larger, the top section is way wider (from the side, the wider line that goes across)

 

the fact itself that is wrapped in a greased paper is the first sign of a forgery. To my knowledge they have never been supplied as replacement parts lol. bad for who is bidding 300$,


Edited by indochinavet, 06 November 2018 - 06:10 AM.

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 08:48 AM

It also looks like it's milled out for a 3/4" not 1/2" mounting plate. Todd in Oregon


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 09:54 AM

It also looks like it's milled out for a 3/4" not 1/2" mounting plate. Todd in Oregon

Todd,

 

I believe the rounded edges of the grip mount slot (apparently from sanding) contribute to making the slot look wider.  The left and right images below are not to scale, but when I superimpose the images on top of one another in Photoshop, the milled slots appear to be the same size.  The finish that has been placed on the grip in question makes it difficult to see the details of the stamped S.

 

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#12 bob241

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 12:04 PM

Just listed on ebay, another 1928 vertical grip that the seller says he removed from a 1921 thompson, buyer beware.

 

                      https://www.ebay.com...b4ZIa:rk:1:pf:0


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 12:53 PM

This seller goes by several names - like 1934woodies, 1940ford, and similar. always seems to have a serious spelling problem. Look at his other stuff. He handmade stocks and was calling them 1921 buttstocks at one time.

 

Do your homework... and I'm not bidding against you!


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 12:59 PM

I asked him what the serial number was. See if there is an answer.
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 01:31 PM

im so glad im not looking for a S1928 grip anymore....they have such high value that most now are just frauds


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 03:25 PM

If I had 10 Colt Thompsons, I would be able to tell you the number on every one of them. I have A friend who had a Shelby Mustang while in college together, he can still tell you the vin number after 40 years. The ebay seller has no clue as to the serial number. I would be highly skeptical, but that is just me.

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 04:26 PM

I know my serial number and I dont even have it yet 🤯
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 10:26 PM

This seller goes by several names - like 1934woodies, 1940ford, and similar. always seems to have a serious spelling problem. Look at his other stuff. He handmade stocks and was calling them 1921 buttstocks at one time.
 
Do your homework... and I'm not bidding against you!

He doesn't usually have good pictures of anything either. I bought a M1 trigger frame and a M1A1 riveted type grip mount bar from him in the past year. It's hard to tell if he is being vague or really has no idea.

I've talked on the phone with him once before and he sounds like he is Hispanic but I'm not 100% sure. His English isn't the best which may be why his spelling isn't great. I've got no bone in either way as I am also pretty skeptical about the vertical grip and would definitely want to be able to return it if it didn't prove to be legit. It is also odd that it is a buy now instead of a auction.

Andrew

Edited by Adg105200, 07 November 2018 - 12:27 PM.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 07:09 AM

Andrew - your experience was exactly the same as mine...


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 11:41 AM

I've got a Savage vertical grip I need to sell if anyone is interested.


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