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#41 Bob

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Posted 09 December 2019 - 07:44 PM

I did see a lot of ACE's and 38 super, but have those. Need a 9 to round out my shooters.

Agreed, the day of the 29's for 200 bucks be long gone... A couple months ago bought a Nickle 8 3/8's for 600, he was happy and it made my day.

Glad to have been around in the golden days when one could mail order stuff and have it delivered to the house :-)

 

Now it's just sad, kind of like the collector car stuff. Kids now days living in mom's basement get their driving experience via video games. Will never break a u-joint, blow a clutch, or push a rod out the bottom of the pan. Doomed I tell ya we is!


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Posted 09 December 2019 - 07:45 PM

The "gun show" business model has about run it's course.  I enjoy them when I have time and have been to SAR, but I've skipped that and the creek for a while now because the concept of taking a chance on finding what I think I need is too much of a crapshoot to justify the trip.  From my desk, at my convenience, I find a lot of stuff much more rare than what I do see at the shows for the most part.  There are still a few dealers willing to "deal", but yeah a guy putting 35K on a sideplate gun is clearly a laughing matter.  Everyone's looking to hook a whale, but most seem unfamiliar with the concept that whales migrate....away from tables with overpriced stuff.   Due to the robust economy those that are gainfully employed seem to be at work, while the aging demographic has the time, maybe not the money, and no interest in purchasing additional stuff at this stage of life. 

 

SAR east will never be again, and it has nothing to do with Dan's reasons in his response, even though most of those may be demographically correct.   Sheesh I though subguns was gone too? 

The M50 may have been a deal, but I could have sat here on my fat a** and paid about the same at the auction for a gun I know is there vs. a gamble on one showing up at the show?  I invested no money and about 10 minutes of time while I was at work on Sat.   Tough to compete with so many venues these days? 

 

You don't see Landies at many shows because he sold most of his stuff out seeking higher margin gains out his shop.  He's not alone.  The few he still does are for his pleasure mostly and to get out of the house.  You want to make bank at a show these days you need to sell oxygen refills, viagra, sitting chair rentals, and in some states weed and CBD oil.


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#43 Rimcrew

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Posted 09 December 2019 - 08:13 PM

You want to make bank at a show these days you need to sell oxygen refills, viagra, sitting chair rentals, and in some states weed and CBD oil.

 

Hard to argue with that...  :)


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Posted 09 December 2019 - 09:36 PM

Good and bad.
Please, these are my opinions so don't be yelling and pissed at me for saying something y'all disagree with.....but I do follow prices quite closely and stuff I saw was pricey AND in shorter supply.
 
We drove from Minnesota and would again as I just like the anticipation of a large gun show.
Our favorite was meeting everyone, including a few folks who weren't on any forums, just met and started chatting. Thanks toall for saying hello to us. it ain't the old days and many of the old timers are gone,but new faces moving in makes me smile too.
As always, lots of decent folks, bought a few small items, even a couple fairly good deals (on totally unneeded and unanticipated items), but no "steals".
And didn't find much in the SAR barn that wasn't quite overpriced. Maybe I'm out of touch but a dented Lanchester mag for $150? Guess the good old days are really history.
 
I got the impression the bargains disappeared Thursday during set-up as with most shows, but we weren't there. Friday the prices were fairly lofty and I got the feeling that Saturday, many dealers doubled down on their asking $$.
I watched one well-known MG dealer tell a customer he was dealing on everything and offer the guy really good prices on some mags, but when I asked about a couple parts I was told that they were at rock bottom already as they were going for twice his asking price on Ebay (right!). As I do, I walked away and bought for less at another table.
While there seemed to be slim pickings in the SAR barn on what I was looking for, there was a lot there that others maybe were seeking. I did enjoy all the older western guns in a couple other buildings. I am always looking for subgun parts to keep my guns running but found very little, and what was there seemed quite overpriced.
 
So, for the two bayonets and scabbards, the Remington 870 stockset, the six tall-fifty ammocans I grabbed and the American Eagle dollars my wife picked up for stocking stuffers, it would seem apparent that the show was not a good deal for us, but we didn't come with that expectation and really did enjoy the trip and our time at the show as well as the weather!. Headed home now to close to zero degrees and wish we could stay south longer.
 
So in my humble opinion, the show was worth the time and the drive, but the bargains (and even the "fair" deals) just weren't there.
Was very pleased to see ammo prices way down (as market seems saturated now) but as we left our daughters place in Texas heavy with Christmas gifts, there was room BUY there wasn't capacity left in my tires to hold a couple cases of nine and a case of .45. Such is life!!
 
Would do it again though an might be there next year too!

Edited by john, 09 December 2019 - 09:44 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2019 - 10:50 PM

I thought it was a better SARS than in recent years,  Saw more rare BAR parts than I've seen in a long time. . . some I've never seen before. 


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Posted 10 December 2019 - 12:22 AM

Glad that everybody had a good time and found maybe what you looked for.Soon it will be end of era stuff. but it all will be written down in some History book. And they will say who ever THEY at such time will be. 

 

"Good times bad times they had it all, And enjoyed everyday of it till the End."

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Posted 10 December 2019 - 07:10 AM

I had a bad experience with several dealers and I went there specifically to look at a gun and it was sold to another dealer before the show opened...duh. When I saw a Wilson MP40 with a $23,500 price tag I headed for the door and never looked back.


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Posted 10 December 2019 - 04:34 PM

Lets see a few tube MP-40; for $27 grand for pair and i saw probably about ten others no deals.And the pre86 for ten grand was a real joke,And the colt for $60 grand, I always say hope Trump makes another 4 years if not i think the next 4 years can get bad for the gun industry real fast.Because they now are all out for all of it.RON


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