Jump to content


Photo

Joined Winchester Club 351


  • Please log in to reply
29 replies to this topic

#1 inertord

inertord

    Respected Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 455 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NE Ohio

Posted 14 January 2018 - 10:16 PM

Picked up a Winchester M1907 .351SL Manufactured in 1949. Its a former Tennessee Police Department Piece that was recently traded out towards new equipment. The 10 Round Magazine is Factory Original to the gun.

Also have assembled components to load including Jamison Arms Virgin Brass and 180 Grain FMJ Bullets.

Should be a fun shooter this spring.

Stay safe,

Frank

Attached Files


Edited by inertord, 14 January 2018 - 10:22 PM.

  • 1

#2 jl7422

jl7422

    Long Time Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 206 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 14 January 2018 - 10:36 PM

That's a very nice looking rifle!  Is it marked with the PD name or an inventory/rack number?


  • 0

#3 inertord

inertord

    Respected Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 455 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NE Ohio

Posted 14 January 2018 - 10:55 PM

That's a very nice looking rifle!  Is it marked with the PD name or an inventory/rack number?


Thanks! It does not have any property markings or rack numbers. I did receive receipt paperwork from the PD that it came from.
  • 0

#4 jim c 351

jim c 351

    Long Time RKI Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 3044 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ohio

Posted 15 January 2018 - 08:10 AM

Frank,

That is a really nice 351, better shape than my self loaders.

If you don't already own Leonard Speckin's book on the 351, I suggest you buy it now.

His email is lspeckin@4n6.com

Congratulations.

Jim C


  • 0

#5 sherman3

sherman3

    Respected Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 84 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:mentor,ohio
  • Interests:H&R Handy Guns, Flare/Gas launchers 20th century military items.

Posted 15 January 2018 - 09:12 AM

Very nice Frank, great addition to your L.E. equipment collection. 

 

           Sherm 3


  • 0

#6 Colt21

Colt21

    Member

  • Regular Group
  • 28 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Wisconsin
  • Interests:Many interesting things

Posted 15 January 2018 - 12:47 PM

       Nice weapon! You will get even more satisfaction with it because you are loading your own ammunition. Conjures up images of "the Son" mini series this past spring. 


  • 0

#7 jim c 351

jim c 351

    Long Time RKI Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 3044 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ohio

Posted 15 January 2018 - 03:57 PM

Frank,

You may have received more comments if you had posted this on the Outlaw/ Lawman Forum.

That's where all 9 of the 351 fans hang out.

Jim C


  • 0

#8 OCM

OCM

    Outlaw History Expert - Respected Member - R.I.P.

  • Board Donor
  • 2352 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Rocky Mountains
  • Interests:Classic cars used by the 1930s outlaws,
    Collecting outlaw artifacts from the 30s, Brewing, BBQ ribs, old aircraft, massive tinkering, Etc....

Posted 15 January 2018 - 04:51 PM

Good job, great gun. Lot of us enjoy them, some in the past too. 

OCM

Attached Files


  • 0

#9 Colt21

Colt21

    Member

  • Regular Group
  • 28 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Wisconsin
  • Interests:Many interesting things

Posted 15 January 2018 - 05:01 PM

   Nice pictures OCM. That would be the ultimate 1907. Is that one of the Lebman mfg weapons?  


  • 0

#10 OCM

OCM

    Outlaw History Expert - Respected Member - R.I.P.

  • Board Donor
  • 2352 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Rocky Mountains
  • Interests:Classic cars used by the 1930s outlaws,
    Collecting outlaw artifacts from the 30s, Brewing, BBQ ribs, old aircraft, massive tinkering, Etc....

Posted 15 January 2018 - 05:57 PM

That IS the lebman Winchester 1907 in Tucson  This is my good friend , the late Sheriff Ernie Hudson's son, holding both Dillinger Winchester 07s recovered in Tucson.

Second picture is my Dillinger Tucson copy I built. I'm certainly not the only one interested and involved in the history ( outlaws & Lawmen) and respect for the Winchester 351. 

 

OCM

Attached Files


  • 0

#11 ron_brock

ron_brock

    Respected Member

  • Moderator
  • 1970 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Wolverine State

Posted 15 January 2018 - 06:00 PM

Are we up to a club of nine now??? Nice looking 07!

Ron
  • 0

#12 Colt21

Colt21

    Member

  • Regular Group
  • 28 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Wisconsin
  • Interests:Many interesting things

Posted 15 January 2018 - 06:11 PM

  OCM and Ron,  Make the interest in outlaws a club of 10 then. I have a lot of paperwork from the Porter County-Dillinger Thompson and have gone down there to disassemble and clean it for them. I got to shoot it also which was a great memory in itself. I was in Tuscon last year but didn't have time to try and see the guns there.


  • 0

#13 OCM

OCM

    Outlaw History Expert - Respected Member - R.I.P.

  • Board Donor
  • 2352 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Rocky Mountains
  • Interests:Classic cars used by the 1930s outlaws,
    Collecting outlaw artifacts from the 30s, Brewing, BBQ ribs, old aircraft, massive tinkering, Etc....

Posted 15 January 2018 - 06:45 PM

Couple of friends on the forum have got to fire the Porter County Thompson, also my pal Sheriff Ernie Hudson.  I think Machine gun Mike has a video of him shooting it, as did Ernie. 

I had talked with Gordon about it also, and what he had done with it.

That thing has the most history involved with it , traveled all over the place with Dillinger. I've emailed Mike about it all internals are Colt, he's got to field strip it I think. 

Be interested in hearing your take on it, if you care to. I think a lot of the guys on the outlaw forum might to, always good to hear someone else's take on 7387.

We shouldn't steal this thread on it tho. 

PM if interested - 

 

OCM 


  • 0

#14 dalbert

dalbert

    Website Owner

  • Admin
  • 4840 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ohio

Posted 15 January 2018 - 07:40 PM

Frank,

 

Congratulations on your Model 1907 acquisition.  I finally joined the club in 2016.  You're going to make me want to reload for mine now, though.  I have a couple of boxes of the Jamison loaded ammo, but I've only shot it with vintage ammo so far.

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com


  • 0

#15 PTRS-14.5

PTRS-14.5

    RKI Member

  • Board Benefactor
  • 184 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Eastern USA, Western USA
  • Interests:Class 3, DD's, Cast Iron Cookware, Working...(What I refer to as "Herding Cats")... Not so much any more!

Posted 15 January 2018 - 11:57 PM

Nice score my old friend.. See ya when I get back east...

PTRS-14.5

 


  • 0

#16 StooperZero

StooperZero

    Long Time Member

  • Board Donor
  • 643 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:US, BFE, PA
  • Interests:WW2 LMG/GPMG.

Posted 16 January 2018 - 09:55 AM

nice

 

 

 

I'm after one this spring.   just blew all my extra gun $$ on a M1 tanker. 


  • 0

#17 AlanDavid

AlanDavid

    Long Time RKI Member

  • Regular Group
  • 210 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney Australia
  • Interests:British military secondary issue small arms.

Posted 03 February 2018 - 06:10 AM

Picked up a Winchester M1907 .351SL Manufactured in 1949. Its a former Tennessee Police Department Piece that was recently traded out towards new equipment. The 10 Round Magazine is Factory Original to the gun.

Also have assembled components to load including Jamison Arms Virgin Brass and 180 Grain FMJ Bullets.

Should be a fun shooter this spring.

Stay safe,

Frank

Out of interest if you have determined the date of manufacture from the various websites on the internet, these are very inaccurate.

For example s/n 49223 which is held in the Imperial War Museum in London will  date to 1947 but the Winchester polishing room records date it to 9th February 1939.

My own rifle s/n 30476 dates to 1914 on the internet but entered the polishing room on 18th January 1912. Needless to say there could be some time before a rifle was actually shipped from the factory after manufacture.

Personally I would be surprised if Winchester made many Model 1907's after December 1941. No doubt some guns could have been assembled after this from parts, but I do not believe the guns were manufactured at all after the war. Just my opinion of course.

 

Regards

 

Alan


  • 0

#18 OCM

OCM

    Outlaw History Expert - Respected Member - R.I.P.

  • Board Donor
  • 2352 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Rocky Mountains
  • Interests:Classic cars used by the 1930s outlaws,
    Collecting outlaw artifacts from the 30s, Brewing, BBQ ribs, old aircraft, massive tinkering, Etc....

Posted 03 February 2018 - 01:59 PM

My records show , example 49223 would be one of the 538 produced in 1939 thru 1940.  30476 one of 1883 produced 1913 thru 1914. 

No models produced 1943- 1947. Henwood has the probable production going from 1948- 1957 with 4900 in 56-57. 

Don't have records in front of me, on when Winchester changed the Operating sleeve tip, but that's a dead give-a-way for the later production 07s.

CJL probably has this when he returns.   

 

OCM


  • 0

#19 Mike Hammer

Mike Hammer

    Respected Member

  • Regular Group
  • 884 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Louisiana
  • Interests:Travel, sun worshiper, margaritas, hot chicks, painting, scuba diving, movies, collecting movie memorabilia and autographs, guns, hot chicks, micro-beers, hot chicks, and did I say hot chicks?

Posted 03 February 2018 - 04:59 PM

Damn that IS a pretty gun, I may have to join the club. What's the entrance fee on picking up an average condition one of these?

 

Mike Hammer


  • 0

#20 dalbert

dalbert

    Website Owner

  • Admin
  • 4840 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ohio

Posted 03 February 2018 - 05:24 PM

Damn that IS a pretty gun, I may have to join the club. What's the entrance fee on picking up an average condition one of these?

 

Mike Hammer

 

 

From about $500 and up, depending upon condition and date of manufacture.

 
David Albert
dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

  • 0