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#1 Oldtrooper

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 04:29 PM

No more AR's from Colt for civilians 

 

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#2 jim c 351

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 06:26 PM

Colt has been doing their best to go bankrupt for a very long time. Maybe this time they will succeed.

One of their attempts in past years was to ignore civilian sales, and concentrate on government sales . Got them in financial trouble before.

May be this time they will succeed.

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 08:42 PM

It's not like it will be their first bankruptcy.  Maybe if they actually manufactured AR-15's instead of just assembling them it might be different?  I think the last time they were competitive was in the 70's, and it's been downhill from there with that product line.  I know it's cool to follow HK's business model, but that doesn't work that well, even for HK, who actually makes things that work really well.


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Posted 19 September 2019 - 08:49 PM

The only Colt I have was made in the 70's ... Product quality aside, it's bowing to political pressure and reacting to something that has not even been done yet (Bans)

 

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#5 Bridgeport28A1

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 08:55 PM

It is not the first time that they have stopped sales to civilians.
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Posted 19 September 2019 - 09:06 PM

It is not the first time that they have stopped sales to civilians.

The last time was due to a government act ... The police department that I worked at in the 90's bought a couple of carbines from Galls Police Supply that were marked "Government or LE Use Only"


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Posted 20 September 2019 - 07:27 AM

I started collecting Colt A2 uppers years ago. Only new and only Colt. Never saw this coming just a hedge for pricing.

I have a bunch of M16's and wanted to be able to match new parts and keep them original. Bet the prices skyrocket.

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 07:46 AM

I don't have anything against Colt Mfg. AR's. But they won't be missed with so many other choices.


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Posted 20 September 2019 - 08:01 AM

It is not the first time that they have stopped sales to civilians.

The last time was due to a government act ... The police department that I worked at in the 90's bought a couple of carbines from Galls Police Supply that were marked "Government or LE Use Only"

March 1989 Colt suspended sales to civilians. No Government Act was involved in 1989 and Colt eventually resumed sales to the public.

https://www.latimes.....html?_amp=true

I bought a “Green Label” HBAR on Department Letterhead.

 

edit: March 1989


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Posted 20 September 2019 - 10:46 AM

They are going to concentrate on civilian sales with their 1911's & their revolvers.  As AR15's are a dime a dozen that is a smart move!  My next Colt is going to be one of their new King Cobras as I have Colt ARs already.  


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Posted 20 September 2019 - 01:34 PM

While this news was widely posted by the media yesterday it actually was announced on 10 Sep.  It is a marketing decision based on the glut of product in the pipeline, this is only a temporary halt.


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Posted 20 September 2019 - 04:31 PM

Roscoe,

If the Colt announcement wasn't a political decision to appease the left they wouldn't have made the statement at all.

They would have kept their mouth shut and just did it.

Your opinion is always welcome.

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#13 Oldtrooper

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:25 PM

What bothers me the most is the timing ... That and the flimsy excuse Colt gave. If a product is not a money maker, any manufacturer has a right to cease production of an item, but continuing the production and refusing to sell the product to the general population with the reasoning that "there are already enough guns on the market to go around" is laughable. (I will add that it a product that is not illegal to own). How would it be if an automobile manufacturer would cease sales of a specific popular vehicle to the public, but to continue production for government sales because there are already enough cars out there to go around?

 
I think what would have been a better course of action for Colt would have been to put their AR style rifles on a special order basis ... I mean as long as they are still producing them what would that have hurt? There are people out there that still buy on name recognition. For example the single action army revolvers that were made by the now defunct USFA company actually surpassed new manufactured Colt single actions in quality and craftsmanship. That said, many would choose the lesser quality Colt simply because it say's "Colt" on the barrel. Colt could have succeeded in whatever their end goal without alienating shooters by having done this.
 
Additionally, whether it was done due to slumping sales of an over-priced product of lesser quality doesn't matter. The anti-gun establishment views this as a huge victory ... Blood in the water ... More manufacturers may be pressured to follow suit. I see it as a huge marketing fail on Colt's part ... I have talked to several guys who swear they will never buy a Colt firearm again.
 
Personally, I don't have a dog in the hunt as I had no plans to buy anything Colt currently markets anyway. I have one Colt carbine made in the 1970's, three antique Colt revolvers, and a Colt 1911 made in 1913. One of the perks of only collecting/shooting vintage firearms I guess.
 
Just my opinion.

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Posted 21 September 2019 - 03:57 AM

Roscoe,

If the Colt announcement wasn't a political decision to appease the left they wouldn't have made the statement at all.

They would have kept their mouth shut and just did it.

Your opinion is always welcome.

Jim C



I do not try to find politics as the cause of every event.


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 07:41 PM

back 15 years or so when I was even more naive then now, I called smith & wesson, all exited about my new M76 purchase and wanting to get more info,  and maybe a copy of a manual.   If I recall, unhappily, the operator connected me with that Jinks fella.  He was not real happy admitting to the existence of the model 76 and told me they had no information, nor manuals of any kind.  That experience and many others made me realize over the years why we're in the situations we're in today, clinging to our rights.  Of all the clowns I hear boasting of being pro-gun, when you bring up certain guns, like the evil ones some of you guys here own, the pro-gun crowd changes their tune rather quickly.  It's hilarious at the time, but within a minute, the amusement fades and these guys are just idiots and I walk away disappointed with their ignorance.  

What is cool today is that the divide is more evident and seems to have swung closer to being pro 2a vs. pro-hunting rights....which aren't actually a right.


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