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#1 jjvpo8

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Posted 14 October 2019 - 07:55 AM

I recently picked up a really nice original British Metal tin that holds ten XX Mags.  It is marked on its lid " BOX MAGAZINES .45in CAL. THOMPSON SUB.MACHINE GUN, MkI.

It came with one WW2 SW CO XX Magazine inside with the solder filled witness holes. 

I was wondering just if these tins were a common item or not. Can add some picture latter.

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Posted 14 October 2019 - 11:08 AM

Jjvpo8,

Congratulations on your recent acquisition.

The British magazine boxes are what I would term "slightly uncommon." If you want to find one, one can be found.

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Posted 14 October 2019 - 11:21 AM

David, Any idea on approx. Value?  There are no issues with clear stenciled paint on the lid.


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Posted 14 October 2019 - 11:30 AM

Congratulations on your find. I agree with Davids comments. For whatever reason, most of these have ended up on this side of the pond. I have not seen or heard of them much in Britain or on the continent.

They come in two colors, a reddish brown and dull green. The makers mark is stamped next to the handle on the one side along with the Broad Arrow. They also originally had U-shaped felt glued in the top and bottom to keep the mags from rattling. The maker SPEEDWELL also dated theirs. I am aware of both 1942 and 1943 versions.

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Posted 14 October 2019 - 11:34 AM

Mine is dull green.  The makers mark on the side is SH Ltd and no date that I see


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Posted 14 October 2019 - 11:36 AM

Value typically runs between $200 and $400 depending on condition, maker, and whether the felt is original.
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Posted 14 October 2019 - 11:38 AM

SH LTD did not date theirs. Most of theirs I have seen have been painted red-brown, so you have a slightly less common version. Is the original felt present? If so, what color is it?

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Posted 14 October 2019 - 11:39 AM

The box is in great original shape but alas the felt is missing


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Posted 14 October 2019 - 11:41 AM

The felt is missing on most examples. Even so, you have a nice example of the mag carrier. Congrats.
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Posted 15 October 2019 - 01:33 PM

Several years ago I purchased 10 NOS AO 20 round magazines that were in one of these tins.  I didn't buy the tin but bought the magazines which were as new.

 

Attached is a picture that was attached to the tin and 10 magazines, which I have in my collection now.

 

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 07:47 AM

Congratulations on your find. I agree with Davids comments. For whatever reason, most of these have ended up on this side of the pond. I have not seen or heard of them much in Britain or on the continent.

They come in two colors, a reddish brown and dull green. The makers mark is stamped next to the handle on the one side along with the Broad Arrow. They also originally had U-shaped felt glued in the top and bottom to keep the mags from rattling. The maker SPEEDWELL also dated theirs. I am aware of both 1942 and 1943 versions.

Roger

Jjvpo8,

Congratulations on your recent find and I agree with Roger, these are not easy to find on my side of the Atlantic.
 

In my collection, I have two, both manufactured by SH Ltd, one green and one brown. I had been looking for one for a few years to add to my collection, and I was pleased as punch, when I was offered them by two MGB members, (not at the same time), so they were both shipped from the USA.

 

I read that in 1942, the British War Office, approved contracts for the manufacture of metal boxes to hold 10 XX round box magazines. Examples of the boxes have been seen marked with SH Ltd., SWS Ltd. and Speedwell. 

 

They were manufactured with the intent to simplify the logistics of delivery and five of the boxes fitted exactly inside a converted Thompson transit chest, with the inner dividers removed. So I need three more and a converted Thompson transit chest now. :unsure:

 

Stay safe

Richard


Edited by rpbcps, 01 December 2019 - 06:10 AM.

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