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#1 brucea4

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Posted 21 May 2020 - 11:18 PM

Hi gang,

 

I understand that the H-block is for the M60 T & E to mount to the 1919 Browning tripod?  Is the M2 tripod different from the M122 tripod?  


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#2 mattnh

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Posted 22 May 2020 - 01:05 PM

The M2 & M192 are very different tripods.  The M192 has a built-in T&E mechanism.

 

The M192 tripod uses a cradle adapter for the M240 - I've never seen such an adapter for the M60.

I'm sure one could be custom made to attach to the M192 and it would then need an place to attach the std M60 H-block adapter if it didn;t have something built-in.


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Posted 23 May 2020 - 12:41 PM

Let me rephrase the question gang...Do I need a H-block to attach an M60 T & E to the M122 tripod?


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Posted 24 May 2020 - 06:13 AM

Well, Wikipedia describes the M122 as a "slightly reworked" M2 tripod and many M2s were converted to M122.  Since the basic form of the tripod didn't change, I would conclude that the "H" block would still be needed for use with an M60.  I'm not sure what you mean when you refer to an "M60 T&E" as the T&E mechanism that is used with the "H" block is the old 1919 T&E mechanism.


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#5 brucea4

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 01:00 PM

I did not know that the T & E for the M60 is the 1919 T & E.  If that is true I surmise I need the H-Block to mount the T & E on the M122 tripod for the M60.


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Posted 24 May 2020 - 02:26 PM

Yep.  The army, in their usual cheap way, just took the bazillion 1919 tripods (complete with T&E mechanism) that they had left over from WW II and Korea and adapted them to the new M60 via the "H" block and the "gooseneck" pintle mount.  I have mounted my M60 on an M2 tripod using them and it works as intended.  The M122 tripod should work the same.


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Posted 24 May 2020 - 07:45 PM

Some confusion over nomenclature.  the M122 is just a reworked M2 tripod. M60 platform was just a pin / clamp to adapt  Early  guns directly to a WWII 1919 pintle. Later version used the goose neck pintle to clamp onto the 1/4' rod in the trunnion of the M60.  the T&E is essentially the same- I have an early WWII T&E with the H block attached for the '60.  Later - new made" T&Es had the H block pinned on so you could lose it without trying.  the M192 tripod is a different animal. It is for the M249 / 240 FN system.

 

So yes, you need and H block- PM me I have several here and will make you a killer deal.....


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#8 brucea4

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Posted 24 May 2020 - 07:54 PM

What about the M60 " platform " pintle?  I have both.  I almost sold the H-Block until I realized I needed one....


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Posted 24 May 2020 - 08:27 PM

Actually early M60's/ T161's  were mounted on M91 tripods which were an offshoot of M74 tripods and never utilized a 1919 pintle style until after 1960.  You'll see that mount in one of my pics on the AA thread.  1960 and later the M122 was adopted.....because yeah, they were cheap and plentiful but pretty worthless for the recreational shooter unless you like dirt!

 

The platform/pintle I'm not sure about, but they may have cut down M142's?  Or the 142's originated from the platform?  I'd have to dig thru some manuals to follow the timeline?  Those are fine, but they swing loose and you can't follow all the directions for dialing in mils and such as "per procedure" which really never happened much anyhow I suspect, other than in training.  You can use the platform and the H- bracket, but the gooseneck and H block T+E all fit nicely in the M122 case as issued.

 

Like MG08 I've also never seen an adapter for the M192, which while cool, is even closer to the dirt than an M122.  I have one, but it's for display only.  Could be good if you shoot from trenches frequently, but every shoot I've been to, no one wants me bringing my backhoe?


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