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Couple of interesting photos.

 

NYPD Thompson demo.JPG

 

Can anyone identify the police department these policemen are serving with? The original caption said NYPD.

 

and Police from Shanghai, between 1945 & 1949.

Shanghai PD 1945-49.JPG

 

Finally, I have seen a photo in the past, showing the policeman in the photo below, armed with the TSMG with C drum, by himself dismounted from the fire truck, but can not find it now. Does anyone have a copy of that by any chance?

 

C Drum fire truck.jpg

 

Stay safe

Richard

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I've had this on my computer, don't remember where I snagged it.

Business end of the Thompson... I have a similar photo on file which features a Brirish Columbian Provincial Police officer, see below.

 

BC Provincial Police with tommy gun.png

 

Has anyone heard of a lawman called S. Glen Young from Illinois, see below?

 

S Glen Young Illinois C1924.JPG

 

Many years ago I downloaded his book, 'Life and Exploits of S. Glenn Young', and never found time to read it, one of these days.

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Has anyone heard of a lawman called S. Glen Young from Illinois, see below?

 

attachicon.gif S Glen Young Illinois C1924.JPG

 

Many years ago I downloaded his book, 'Life and Exploits of S. Glenn Young', and never found time to read it, one of these days.

 

Young was a fired special officer from Williamson County, IL. Special officers were pretty common at the time, as far as I can tell these were deputised folks without weapons. He personally bought the Model 1921A submachine gun (No. 2256) in early 1924 (shipped on 31-DEC-1923). Around 1923 he became a self-appointed "Prohibition Officer" (as far as I can remember he was not actually with the Bureau of Prohibition, at least no longer at that time) and with his buddies from the Ku Klux Klan conducted numerous pro-prohibition raids in the area. That brought him in conflict with pretty much everyone there, including both the Birger and Shelton Gangs and the local law enforcement. He arrested local police officers, some people were killed, in February 1924 military law was declared and up to 1,000 troops from the Illinois National Guard were brought in to oust the KKK and with him Young. Apparently he was still allowed to keep his weapons, though, because in May 1924 he had his Thompson and two Government pistols with him when his car was strafed by the Shelton Gang on the road. He was wounded, his wife blinded (she later published the book you mentioned). In January 1925, Young was killed in a spectactular gun fight with sheriff deputies and two KKK bodyguards in a hotel lobby in Herrin, IL.

An interesting detail is that one of Young's opponents in all this was Sheriff George Galligan of Williamson County, whose deputy Leslie Farmer acquired the Model 1921A submachine guns (No. 2347 and No. 2596) for the conflict. What's that you say? No. 2347? The gun used in the murder of Francesco Ioele (AKA Frankie Yale) and the seven guys in the SMC garage in Chicago (AKA the St. Valentine's Massacre)? Surely not? Yeah, the very same. Which opens up interesting new avenues to from where Thomas Camp (AKA Fred "Killer" Burke) got the gun ...

 

Cheers

 

HANS

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Hans,

that makes interesting reading, I regret not reading the 'Life and Exploits of S. Glenn Young' sooner, I must find it now.

 

Stay safe

Richard

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Hans,

that makes interesting reading, I regret not reading the 'Life and Exploits of S. Glenn Young' sooner, I must find it now.

 

In view of the publisher, you will find it slightly biased ...

 

Cheers

 

HANS

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Hans,

that makes interesting reading, I regret not reading the 'Life and Exploits of S. Glenn Young' sooner, I must find it now.

 

In view of the publisher, you will find it slightly biased ...

 

Cheers

 

HANS

 

I think all books are biased, one way or another, nature of the beast.

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