Buickman58 Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Hello,Got stumped today with a large parts group had picked up. A very interesting site and maybe feed paws from some type of machine gun. Was mixed in with bunch of ww1 and ww2 1911 parts. I dont have a clue on these and am starting to pull out what little hair is left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DINK Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) Don't know about the elaborate rear sight, but the long skinny things (disconnect lever) and the selector lever are for the US M2 Carbine. Edited December 14, 2020 by DINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 In addition to the M2 carbine parts ,it appears you have 1911 45 auto slide stops, hammers and grips.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buickman58 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Thank you for that DINK, I was not going that direction! And Jim you have a good eye, separating.... you can see my wife hates me as pushed her Xmas dishes aside and got grease on the table cloth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DINK Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 So who will be handling the disposition of these parts after your wife gets done with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Interested in the sight if you want to sell...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buickman58 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 I joke with her about that, one day a yard sale will happen and $5 will be in my wifes pocket.....I dont know why he loved this junk. I am going to sell about all of it, but not until is all identified and checked. I am not a dealer so takes me longer than some. If you are interested in the sight(Black River Militaria CII), I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) Interesting anomaly: the "9" on the ladder is in a different font than the rest of the numbers.Any ideas as to what this sight is from? Or why there are two apertures, one normally sized and one unusually large just below it? Edited December 14, 2020 by StrangeRanger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Sight is missing the multiple peep rotating disc in center of lower part of sight elevator. It is for the 1909 Benet-Mercie LMG in .30-06. Broken screw as well. Will not fit any other MG. Windage adjustment screw is right forward not back left as on 1917/1917a1 WCs. FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buickman58 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Thank you for the help on the sight, Black River Militaria CII. I sent you a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 That rear sight will also fit on a 1914 Colt Commerical Digger. The one I sold earlier this year had one on it. Yes its missing the disk. The buyer of my gun would be very interested in that sight assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Yes, good catch! Having had a 1914 Colt with that sight on it years ago, I am chagrined not to have remembered that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 How many of the parts are USGI issue?? The frames look foreign and also several slides/?How much do you want for the book??You have the largest hammer collection of anyone I know.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 BRMC-cant catch everything all the time. Im more surprised someone could back me up on it and not think I was nuts lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 John, those of us that know you still think you're nuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buickman58 Posted December 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Lots of stuff Jim! Have been putting on ebay and sold about 27 hammers in a lot. The sight is up and if you guys are interested will be reasonable as you helped with the identification. It is listed high as will just lower until it goes. I will get some more pictures of the slides up as interesting to compare them. Some foreign. Lots of stuff... and I love my book:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buickman58 Posted December 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Here are the slides, interesting to compare the foreign with the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 For those that had interesthttps://www.gunbroker.com/Item/888293612 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 If it's for a Benet, it's not for a US model I don't think? Assuming it's graduated in yards, it's way short of what the common sights are graduated to? Font and markings are completely different as well. There are at least 4 guns that used that style of leaf, and several look the same, but have minute differences. I've never seen that font style before on any US gun? US Benet sights fit into 1917 browning bases, but they have some differences and are likely not accurate. I've seen Browning sights on Benet's so apparently they got easily mixed up because they fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted January 3, 2021 Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) Here's some pics of sights and types mounts. Delving into the details of these sights is new to me and this thread has prompted me to make some comparisons and find out more about the odd Benet-Mercie sights.Jeff's comment is correct to the extent that the BMG sight leaf will fit onto the Benet sight leaf mount, but the BMG leaf was never assembled on the guns that had the specific style of leaf mount that put the windage knob on the forward left of the receiver sight mount mount. Also, the thread on the Benet-Mercie type of windage knob and leaf base is different than the windage knob thread on the BMG leaf mount and base which is just a noteworthy difference since the BMG leaf base cannot fit the Benet receiver mount. The windage threads on the BMG leaf mount are in the wrong end of the mount.First pic is of the rear sight on the 1915 Colt Vickers. It is the same sight that was used on the Benet-Mercie and the Colt commercial digger. The windage knob is located forward left on the leaf mount. Second pic shows the Benet-Mercie leaf on left and BMG leaf on right. Very different lengths is the obvious difference but there are other minor differences.Third pic shows the leaf mounts with shorter Benet-Mercie mount on left and longer BMG on right.Fourth pic shows the three parts of the Benet-Mercie rear sight with receiver sight base mount on left, leaf mount center and leaf on right.So, the three specific MGs that used the shorter .30-06 sight leaf with the windage adjustment knob located on the forward left of the rear sight mount appear to be the Benet-Mercie auto rifles, both makes, the Colt commercial 1914 digger and the Colt 1915 Vickers. FWIW Edited January 3, 2021 by Black River Militaria CII 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted January 3, 2021 Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 Nice assortment!! Just not a lot of this stuff around and as random parts pop up it becomes difficult to match them up correctly. This is pic of what I recall to be a Benet sight on a 17 BMG base. This may be the only one (since it's probably wrong and wouldn't be accurate) and I may have forgotten what happened here?There was also an early US bolt rifle that used the same or similar leaf (don't recall what the base looked like?) when I was researching this years ago.....still can't remember what it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted January 3, 2021 Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 There was also an early US bolt rifle that used the same or similar leaf (don't recall what the base looked like?) when I was researching this years ago.....still can't remember what it was? johnsonlmg41, I guess it depends on the definition of "similar," but the M1917 Rifle has a somewhat similar ladder style rear sight. David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 The sight mounted on the BMG pictured above is interesting since it is calibrated to 2400 yds whereas the Benet-Mercie sight goes out to 2600. Although I am not positive, and I'll go out on a limb here, I believe that neither the Colt or Springfield versions of the auto rifle were made in any other caliber than .30-06. So, in my opinion, that shorter range sight was not made for the Benet-Mercie guns.FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 OH NO! Another mystery sight? I know I looked into it a few years back and thought BM from a photo, but I guess not?David, it may have been on a M1917 photo? I'll have to keep digging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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