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#1 anjong-ni

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Posted 14 June 2020 - 11:32 AM

Well, I would say that the market is pretty hot.

 

You could probably get TWO genuine Colt Thompsons for what this refinished, incorrect 1911 will sell for....Phil

 

https://www.gunbroke.../item/868499566

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#2 Baltimoreed11754

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Posted 14 June 2020 - 02:20 PM

Doesn’t have the idiot scratch though. 


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Posted 14 June 2020 - 03:20 PM

Please inform as to why the thing is worth more than $2500 I know nothing of the 1911's
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Posted 14 June 2020 - 03:35 PM

Refinished?


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Posted 14 June 2020 - 03:37 PM

Please inform as to why the thing is worth more than $2500I know nothing of the 1911's


Singer only made 500 guns. Probably less remain in existence.
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#6 benedw60

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Posted 14 June 2020 - 04:50 PM

Bug pm sent
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Posted 14 June 2020 - 08:53 PM

Frame looks correct, as does the SN but   should be a Dulite finish , it appers it is buffed and blued. HS barrel may have been original, I have not looked in my book.

 


Markings: The left side of the slide is marked “S. MFG. CO. / ELIZABETH, N.J., U.S.A." (the horizontal bar on the "H" is slightly tilted with the left side higher than the right, characteristic of Singer slide markings), the top of the slide is marked "P" with the tail pointed toward the ejection port (also characteristic of Singer slide markings). The right of the frame is marked "UNITED STATES PROPERTY / No S800445" and "M 1911 A1 U.S. ARMY", the right of the frame is marked "JKC" at the top-rear of the trigger relief cut and "P" above and behind the magazine release. The left link lug is marked "P", the right "HS" (High Standard production, not original to the gun).


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Posted 15 June 2020 - 09:14 AM

Look at this one:

 

https://www.gunbroke.../item/867890060


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Posted 15 June 2020 - 09:17 AM

To me the Singer looks refinished, with rounded edges and the original final surface milling over-buffed and gone. 


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Posted 15 June 2020 - 11:08 AM

This one sold for $414,000

 

 

https://www.rockisla...turing-co-model

 

A fellow I know is into the Colt single actions in .45 long Colt 
 

You think Thompsons are expensive !
And there are a ton of them out there. Not nearly as rare as a Thompson.
I dont get it.

https://www.rockisla...-army-revolvers

https://www.military...old at auction.


Edited by lightguy, 15 June 2020 - 11:19 AM.

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Posted 15 June 2020 - 03:28 PM

Look at this one:

 

https://www.gunbroke.../item/867890060

 

If you would like to learn more about the seller, there are various threads on Colt Forum. 


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#12 anjong-ni

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Posted 15 June 2020 - 06:41 PM

My wife won't let me buy anything that costs over $5000/pound unless it's from "deBeers"..


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 01:30 PM

My wife won't let me buy anything that costs over $5000/pound unless it's from "deBeers"..

:D

 

Youre trying to say she'd be OK with a Gatling gun ?


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 02:15 PM

Jerry brought one in i think from England years ago had to be import stamped paid around $25 grand. I think he sold it for twice that never did find out who the buyer was.The importer was Simpson Ltd.It was in very good to exc. cond.

 

Probably well over 15 years ago maybe longer.

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 08:54 PM

This one sold for $414,000

 

 

https://www.rockisla...turing-co-model

 

A fellow I know is into the Colt single actions in .45 long Colt 
 

You think Thompsons are expensive !
And there are a ton of them out there. Not nearly as rare as a Thompson.
I dont get it.

https://www.rockisla...-army-revolvers

https://www.military...old at auction.


This is why my collecting focus has generally been MG's.  I feel they are under priced based upon their history, scarcity, and effects of changing the outcomes of wars.   I've never heard anyone claim a 1911 is what changed the course of battles?  Mostly tactics and other factors, but while some soldiers ran head on into battle, few ran head on towards an MG42 or a Browning MG or other MG's.  I'm sure the Singer collectors would laugh at me?


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 10:24 PM

This one sold for $414,000

 

 

https://www.rockisla...turing-co-model

 

A fellow I know is into the Colt single actions in .45 long Colt 
 

You think Thompsons are expensive !
And there are a ton of them out there. Not nearly as rare as a Thompson.
I dont get it.

https://www.rockisla...-army-revolvers

https://www.military...old at auction.


This is why my collecting focus has generally been MG's.  I feel they are under priced based upon their history, scarcity, and effects of changing the outcomes of wars.   I've never heard anyone claim a 1911 is what changed the course of battles?  Mostly tactics and other factors, but while some soldiers ran head on into battle, few ran head on towards an MG42 or a Browning MG or other MG's.  I'm sure the Singer collectors would laugh at me?

Yea but a GAU-8 makes an MG42 look like a pop gun, it’s all perspective and interest. I do think Tom Hanks stopped the whole German army with a 1911 at the end of Saving Private Ryan


Edited by cbmott, 17 June 2020 - 07:48 AM.

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 10:53 AM

  I've never heard anyone claim a 1911 is what changed the course of battles? 


I think Sergeant York might disagree. Kidding aside, I imagine that anyone that has a 1911 worth more than my house has a few MGs too. And as you know the cost of a MG goes deeper than the price tag.


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Posted 17 June 2020 - 02:37 PM

Yea I don't get it.  No thanks.  But to each their own.


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Posted 17 June 2020 - 03:44 PM

Anything that can be collected has classics in the stratosphere.  I was into coins before calibers.  (Mostly because a 9-year-old kid can fill a Whitman folder with real buffalo nickels.  Buying a real STEN is another matter.)  But to my point: https://coins.ha.com...?releaseId=2404

 

Some guns/coins/cars/sculptures are so iconic that they command their own value.


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Posted 17 June 2020 - 07:20 PM

And to put the "Singer 1911" in perspective, it was for sale IN California, to Californians, at a store in Simi Valley, a couple miles from here.

 

Virtually NO ONE will sell a vintage semi-auto-anything to CA, much less a store right here in town.

No law forbids it. Out-of-state vendors are (justifiably?) squeamish.

 

And no matter how wealthy you are, you can't buy an M/G in CA.

 

If machine-guns are ever allowed in California, we will clear out the market at "Stratospheric" prices". For sure....Phil


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