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#1 Grease Gunner

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Posted 02 May 2019 - 06:00 PM

Some Colts, WHs, and M1a1s

It starts Friday May3rd and the Class 3 stuff will start mid to late afternoon

 


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#2 Ron Mills

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Posted 02 May 2019 - 08:33 PM

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https://www.rockisla...ywords=Thompson
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#3 JimFromFL

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:10 AM

I don't see the results. When do they usually get posted?


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 12:25 PM

The 27AC seems to have sold cheap at $28,000.

The other colts varied from $30-$65,000


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 12:49 PM

The Model of 1927AC was a re-blued Colt's with a GI Type 4 compensator most likely indicating a barrel that was not original, The grip was not Colt's and the butt stock was questionable. I would be very surprised if the internals contained the original semi-automatic parts but this is just a guess on my part. At a hammer price of $27,500 plus Buyers Premium, it will make someone an expensive shooter grade Colt's. I believe this is the second time around for NO 4706; the last time was about same if my memory is correct.


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:25 PM

Maybe Mr. Cors has a reserve that hasn't been met.


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 06:28 PM

Does anyone have the sold prices for the Colt's?  Thanks.

 

Lot #1560  Ser. 4001

      #759    Ser. 12666

      #760    Ser. 4580

      #766    Ser. 3151


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 08:15 PM

These hammer prices are from my notes. I did not see Lot #1560, NO 4001. I thought NO 4001 sold at an earlier Rock Island auction. 

 

Rock Island Auction on May 3, 2019:
 

NO 4706 - 2197AC: $27,500 plus BP - re-blue, wood, barrel and compensator issues
NO 12666 - 1928 NAVY: $65,000 plus BP
NO 4580 - 1921A: $50,000 plus BP
NO 3151 - 1921AC: $30,000 plus BP - re-blue


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:17 PM

I can handle the sale prices, just not the buyers premiums.


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:18 PM

Thanks Tom.

 

And, I just received my copy of your Colt book.

Only needs an autograph to be complete.


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Posted 05 May 2019 - 06:02 AM

Did anyone see what the Marlin-Rockwell Digger sold for?
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Posted 05 May 2019 - 11:26 AM

Did anyone see what the Marlin-Rockwell Digger sold for?

From my notes 11K.  Plus premium.   The lewis 16K plus premium.   Some deals, no steals.  As always every auction is a crapshoot between recycled items with high reserves and staggeringly high bids like 10K Reisings.   Good day to be selling MP40's in the 30's with BP.  Lots of guns can be bought on their photos alone, but if I were spending money on a common gun like a Colt Thompson, where prices for the same gun can seem to swing more than 40K depending on the finish and potentially a few minor replaced parts, you're going to want to see it in person for verification, or you're likely to pay too much.  Course I think if you pay more than 35K for any Thompson, you've already paid too much unless it has proven provenance to some major event, but that's clearly personal opinion.  Generally I value military guns higher overall. HTH


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 09:33 AM

Anyone know what the final price was for the West Hurley? Thanks
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Posted 06 May 2019 - 06:46 PM

$11k was dirt cheap!! Even with the BP its still now bad
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Posted 08 May 2019 - 03:50 PM

Anyone know what the final price was for the West Hurley? Thanks

 

One of the WH Thompson sold for $31K

https://www.rockisla...ompson-1928-smg


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Posted 08 May 2019 - 04:18 PM

The Model of 1927AC was a re-blued Colt's with a GI Type 4 compensator most likely indicating a barrel that was not original, The grip was not Colt's and the butt stock was questionable. I would be very surprised if the internals contained the original semi-automatic parts but this is just a guess on my part. At a hammer price of $27,500 plus Buyers Premium, it will make someone an expensive shooter grade Colt's. I believe this is the second time around for NO 4706; the last time was about same if my memory is correct.

 

Looking at the Realized Prices there is none listed for the 1927 Colt.  The $27,500 hammer price must not have hit the reserve? Looks like it may have a third go round at a future auction.

 

Lot 754: Colt/Auto-Ordnance Model 1927 (AC) Thompson Submachine Gun

Headline: Extremely Rare Colt/Auto-Ordnance Class III/NFA C&R Model 1927 (AC) "Semi-Automatic" Only Thompson Submachine Gun

Estimated Price: $45,000.00 - $70,000.00

Caliber / Gauge: 45 ACP


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Posted 10 May 2019 - 06:01 AM

Looks like the Thompson FBI case went for just under 6K.

I had a bid on it for $3500 to no avail..

Its a good thing that everything is marching upwards in price for

us older collectors.

One day we all will have to sell everything, hopefully not at fire sale

prices.

Darryl


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Posted 10 May 2019 - 10:55 AM

These hammer prices are from my notes. I did not see Lot #1560, NO 4001. I thought NO 4001 sold at an earlier Rock Island auction. 

 

Rock Island Auction on May 3, 2019:
 

NO 4706 - 2197AC: $27,500 plus BP - re-blue, wood, barrel and compensator issues
NO 12666 - 1928 NAVY: $65,000 plus BP
NO 4580 - 1921A: $50,000 plus BP
NO 3151 - 1921AC: $30,000 plus BP - re-blue

 

 

Here are all of them including buyer premium and serial number

 

Lot 754  Colt 1927 serial 4706 passed as it did not hit sellers reserve(per RIA)

 

lot 757 AOC 1928 serial 1817321     $37385                    (notes said assembled at end of war

lot 759 Colt 1928 serial 12666            $74750

lot760 Colt 1921A serial 4580             $57,500

lot 764 WH 1928                                  $28,750  (WOW)

lot 766 Colt 1921 serial 3151                $34,500

lot 767 WH 1928                                   $31,625  (WOW)

lot1568  Colt 1921 serial 4001               $69000

lot 1569  Colt 1928 serial 7439              $54,600

 

Other notables were an Uzi that brought $17k

a Mac $11,500

AR180  $20,700

Reising  $8600

 

As collector enthusiasts  this is good news to see high prices

but for the person on the hunt a Reising at $8600 seems out of reach and a mac at $11,500!!

 

HERE is a link to Page 1 of  the class 3 part of Rock Island Auctions

to see page 2 , just click next at the bottom of page

 

https://www.rockisla...76/class-iii/1/


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Posted 10 May 2019 - 01:44 PM

GG thanks for posting. All matching MP44 over $48k wow
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Posted 10 May 2019 - 02:01 PM

These hammer prices are from my notes. I did not see Lot #1560, NO 4001. I thought NO 4001 sold at an earlier Rock Island auction. 

 

Rock Island Auction on May 3, 2019:
 

NO 4706 - 2197AC: $27,500 plus BP - re-blue, wood, barrel and compensator issues
NO 12666 - 1928 NAVY: $65,000 plus BP
NO 4580 - 1921A: $50,000 plus BP
NO 3151 - 1921AC: $30,000 plus BP - re-blue

 

 

Here are all of them including buyer premium and serial number

 

Lot 754  Colt 1927 serial 4706 passed as it did not hit sellers reserve(per RIA)

 

lot 757 AOC 1928 serial 1817321     $37385                    (notes said assembled at end of war

lot 759 Colt 1928 serial 12666            $74750

lot760 Colt 1921A serial 4580             $57,500

lot 764 WH 1928                                  $28,750  (WOW)

lot 766 Colt 1921 serial 3151                $34,500

lot 767 WH 1928                                   $31,625  (WOW)

lot1568  Colt 1921 serial 4001               $69000

lot 1569  Colt 1928 serial 7439              $54,600

 

Other notables were an Uzi that brought $17k

a Mac $11,500

AR180  $20,700

Reising  $8600

 

As collector enthusiasts  this is good news to see high prices

but for the person on the hunt a Reising at $8600 seems out of reach and a mac at $11,500!!

 

HERE is a link to Page 1 of  the class 3 part of Rock Island Auctions

to see page 2 , just click next at the bottom of page

 

https://www.rockisla...76/class-iii/1/

 

Is that a typo on lot 757 the AOC TSMG?


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