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#1 Vettom

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 07:34 AM

This is a Popular Science magazine cover from October 1943. Pictured is 27yo Sgt. Thurmon Horton from Clarkton NC on a M10 Panther. The article notes they are armed with Tommy guns and grenades. there are no other pictures or discussion on the TSMGs.Attached File  DOC061219 1943-111538.pdf   810.19K   153 downloads


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 09:58 AM

Nice cover
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Posted 12 June 2019 - 11:40 AM

Thanks.  It's often fascinating to me to see these old colored photos of these guys when they were so young.  It gives me an interesting feeling like they are still here and look like that.  I'm quickly reminded that is not the case though.  He was born in 1916 and passed away in September, 1988.  I was 2 years old.  I thank him for his service.


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 11:47 AM

Thompson's were standard issue on tanks ... I believe each tank had two SMG's ... Here are tankers in a Stuart Light Tank on Bataan with their Thompson's (At least that is how the photo is identified) 

 

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:08 PM

Thompson's were standard issue on tanks ... I believe each tank had two SMG's ... Here are tankers in a Stuart Light Tank on Bataan with their Thompson's (At least that is how the photo is identified) 
 
attachicon.gif Thompsons.jpg


From what I can find the picture is of Marines from company A of the 1st Marine Tank Battalion next to there M3 Stuart light tank near the river Tenaru on the Guadalcanal, yeah at the beginning of WW2 Thompson where shipped with each tank that is why there is so many Thompson parts in Russia because we sent them Sherman tanks and they didn't like/didn't have ammo for the Thompsons so they just put them in storage
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Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:59 PM

Thompson's were standard issue on tanks ... I believe each tank had two SMG's ... Here are tankers in a Stuart Light Tank on Bataan with their Thompson's (At least that is how the photo is identified) 
 
attachicon.gif Thompsons.jpg


From what I can find the picture is of Marines from company A of the 1st Marine Tank Battalion next to there M3 Stuart light tank near the river Tenaru on the Guadalcanal, yeah at the beginning of WW2 Thompson where shipped with each tank that is why there is so many Thompson parts in Russia because we sent them Sherman tanks and they didn't like/didn't have ammo for the Thompsons so they just put them in storage

You're probably correct ... A lot of these photos on the web are not identified correctly ... 


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 09:41 PM

So I just want to know, can we ever fly at 50,000 feet?   :D


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:23 AM

To quote the last article line
one by one, the problems of the conquest of the stratosphere are being solved.
Now I have pondered taking the staples out so other scans can be done with the pages flat.
This is a neat magazine during wartime with a number of articles on enemy weapons and look back in time.
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Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:24 AM

Attached File  DOC061319 cover-112622.pdf   795.39K   33 downloads

 

I don't mind putting info out, but clearly some of this magazine is not TSMG related so I don't want the mods upset. 

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 08:56 AM

Note that the magazine in the Thompson is a drum. I understand that a lot of the magazines for these tank Thompsons were drums rather than box magazines, at least early in the war.
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Posted 13 June 2019 - 12:45 PM

Thompson's were standard issue on tanks ... I believe each tank had two SMG's ... Here are tankers in a Stuart Light Tank on Bataan with their Thompson's (At least that is how the photo is identified) 
 
attachicon.gif Thompsons.jpg


From what I can find the picture is of Marines from company A of the 1st Marine Tank Battalion next to there M3 Stuart light tank near the river Tenaru on the Guadalcanal, yeah at the beginning of WW2 Thompson where shipped with each tank that is why there is so many Thompson parts in Russia because we sent them Sherman tanks and they didn't like/didn't have ammo for the Thompsons so they just put them in storage

 

 

While I do believe that during WWII the Russians received Thompsons with tanks and other "Lend-Lease" vehicles, I also believe they received them and .45 ammunition as aid.
Every weapon we provided would have been supplied with a "basic" load of ammo, otherwise the tanks would have not been of any use!
Years ago a large quantity of "repacked" .45 ammo came into the US from Russia.
Also, I recently read a de-classified article part of which covered the US Army evaluation of building the STEN gun in the USA.
The Russians were approached to see if they would accept STEN's as "lend lease" aid and their answer was no, keep sending Thompson's.
Not the answer you would expect from a country that just intended to store the guns away and not use them.


Its possible that whoever imported all the Thompson kits from Russia marketed them as never having been used.
I have had the same story with other former Communist stored material, only to find a mix of not used, used a little and refinished before storage (looks like new til you look closely)

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 01:09 PM

Years ago, a friend of mine had and restored a M5A1 Stuart light tank. He tried to make it as complete as he could, including a working .30 cal. Browning in the bow and coax position, a working 37mm M6 main gun, and a 1928A1 Thompson that was listed in the TOE above the radios in the turret. I always wondered how close the issue of a 1928A1 Thompson was kept, and not just a M1 or M3 submachinegun.


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 02:21 PM

So I just want to know, can we ever fly at 50,000 feet?   :D


Yes!!!!
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Posted 13 June 2019 - 04:15 PM

You can even parachute from twice that height with the right equipment. Joe Kittinger 102,800 ft.
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