rpbcps Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 Thank you again for posting these photos. So 'textbook' British conversion stock sets look slightly different. Could these checked versions early or maybe just an another variation of British reuse? Best regards Tommyus1945@hotmail.com The checked versions were not used in the European and North African Theatres, but in the Burma and the Far East, I believe. Also the stocks with the added two wood screws are not common, I have a number of former British Army Thompsons, 1928's, 1928A1's and an M1 and only one has the added wood screws, incidentally that one also has a checked foregrip. Tom Davis's book "Great Britain The Tommy gun story", will give you a lot of information on the British use of the Thompson, I recommend this book, worth every dollar. https://www.amazon.com/Great-Britain-Tommy-Story-2015-01-15/dp/B01F9QFYGO/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Great+Britain+the+tommy+gun+story&qid=1584975943&sr=8-1&swrs=9D73CCFA3743E845EFBCD12C106646F1 Stay safeRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZelenka Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 Thank you again for posting these photos. So 'textbook' British conversion stock sets look slightly different. Could these checked versions early or maybe just an another variation of British reuse? Best regards Tommyus1945@hotmail.com The checked versions were not used in the European and North African Theatres, but in the Burma and the Far East, I believe. Also the stocks with the added two wood screws are not common, I have a number of former British Army Thompsons, 1928's, 1928A1's and an M1 and only one has the added wood screws, incidentally that one also has a checked foregrip. Tom Davis's book "Great Britain The Tommy gun story", will give you a lot of information on the British use of the Thompson, I recommend this book, worth every dollar. https://www.amazon.com/Great-Britain-Tommy-Story-2015-01-15/dp/B01F9QFYGO/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Great+Britain+the+tommy+gun+story&qid=1584975943&sr=8-1&swrs=9D73CCFA3743E845EFBCD12C106646F1 Stay safeRichardDid you see the wood in my post? It is on a gun that is a 1928A1 with Tommy Gun marking, original barrel and grip frame. It has an original finish but some replacement internals. The butt stock metal is hand stamped with a serial number that is hand Xed out and this gun's number is hand stamped either above or below. There is no British broad arrow or proof house marks. Just to make things a bit more interesting, it was imported by Century Arms in the early 1990s. Any idea where these guns came from? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 Here is a photo of the parallel hole drilled for a pull through kit. Parallel hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67ray Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 To think that this wood was in some musty basement or garage is tragic . . . how many more have been left out on the curb unknowingly and are lost forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US1945 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) One more question.. I found some for ends being not patched, so original swivel configuration on the side. Any information on these? (manufacturer, period) These came off American 1928a1's reused in Greece as well. I removed the American swivels, these were just like the others. Best regards Tommy Edited July 26, 2023 by US1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US1945 Posted April 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) Anybody? On 3/27/2020 at 8:06 PM, US1945 said: One more question.. I found some for ends being not patched, so original swivel configuration on the side. Any information on these? (manufacturer, period) These came off American 1928a1's reused in Greece as well. I removed the American swivels, these were just like the others. Best regards Tommy IMG_20200327_195019.jpg IMG_20200327_195030.jpg IMG_20200327_195039.jpg IMG_20200327_195053.jpg blockquote widget Edited July 26, 2023 by US1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 The Greeks used IIRC Olive wood. I have one forend - somewhere. It is nasty, looks like hand made - kinda like what you are showing. I also think these were on an M1 or M1A1 Greek made (sometimes brass framed) replicas, not a 1928s. In all of your wood, did you find and buttstocks that looked to be made from similar wood? I need to see those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMG28 Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Mike, I don't know about Greek use of WWII guns we gave them, but the Turkish Thompsons made on Cypress all had olive wood stocks. If your forend is made of olive wood, especially since it is crude, my guess is that it is from a Turkish Thompson. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US1945 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) Mike, all my buttstocks had the conversion and all marked in a way. So US WWII made. Only about 5-10 for ends with hoods on the side and not marked. Not sure how to see it's olive wood Best regards Tommy Edited July 26, 2023 by US1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US1945 Posted April 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) Roger, I looked on the internet for Turkish Thompsons. I think these have a swivel on the bottom? We need a board member with the same for end on his Thompson, to be sure. Best regards Tommy Edited July 26, 2023 by US1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 I have a Turkish M1 lower, but the wood does not look like that. Someone sanded and put a high gloss finish on the buttstock, pistol grip and forearm. I will dig it out and try to get some photos today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US1945 Posted July 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) I haven't figured out what the newer looking forends are. I guess the Greek made these. Best regards Tommy Edited July 26, 2023 by US1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 Turkish M1 lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US1945 Posted July 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) I have one more question about non American forends. I observed a walnut or beech (?) forend. I'm no expert on wood, the grain looks different. I made photos next to a more reddish-brown olive wood (?) forend. The forend in question is not converted (like the olive wood examples which I showed before), so original swivel on the side. Anything special? Best regards Tommy Edited July 26, 2023 by US1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US1945 Posted July 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) I also have a question about 'nut' marked stock sets versus 'nut + d' marked stock sets. I found several of these (stripped wood cross bolt stock sets). Are these all in fact d stock sets or is the 'nut' mark an universal maker mark? So not related related to this specific maker? I have 4 with Dittenborn marks, however there are also big S markts on the back, where the buttplate goes. So two different maker marks on one stock set? Best regards Tommy Edited July 26, 2023 by US1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US1945 Posted August 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) On 3/19/2020 at 9:02 PM, DZelenka said: Here are pictures of my British wood on a 1928A1. Hi DZelenka, can you perhaps make a photo of the swivel position on the buttstock? I found some British stock set parts within my stack. Found out (based on my buttstocks) that the swivel on top is closer to the buttplate on the British non cross lug buttstock, compared to the Greek cross bolt converted buttstocks. Check my other thread, I posted some photos. Edited August 7, 2023 by US1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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