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#1 Rimcrew

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 12:10 PM

I have been a sponge here for a long time, soaking up all the knowledge I can get.  I now have found three Thompson's which I am interested in buying, but can't decide which to get.

 

The choices are a 21A, 21AC, or 28 Navy.  All are former PD guns, and in nice, original, condition.  Condition being equal, is one preferable to the other, or is it a personal preference kind of thing?

 

It would be much easier if I were only looking at one, but three is making it difficult...  :)

 

I'll be buying TD's book soon, just to make sure I don't overlook something.  TIA

 

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#2 DZelenka

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 01:46 PM

All things being equal, i would probably go for the 21A.


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 02:24 PM

They all look nice.  What's the asking price?  Are they priced the same?


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 02:57 PM

They all look nice.  What's the asking price?  Are they priced the same?

 

I am trying to establish a price for them.  It's a friend, and we want to be fair with each other.

 

For now, I would say all would be priced about the same.  What that is, I have no idea yet.


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#5 ppgcowboy

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 03:05 PM

Have you looked at the 28 Navy package offered by gijive. Lots of goodies come with it.
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Posted 11 June 2019 - 03:11 PM

The 21A all the way. Although the actuator looks, odd.


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 03:34 PM

Rimcrew,

You are going to love my book. As to your choice, look at the last sentence on page 179. That is all you need to know if all things are equal. 

 

You have a great opportunity to examine 3 Colt's in one setting. I emphasize original finish and barrels. Look at all three together to judge the finish. Is the finish about equal on each gun notwithstanding wear spots. Is the color on all three the same. If all three were police guns, it is common to find similar wear patterns. They may be different models now, but all three were originally manufactured as 1921As.

 

Do the same examination with the barrels, both right and left sides. Where does the grip mount fit under the fin. Count the fins. Look at the index markings. Compare to the pictures in my book. Read & reread the captions! With three Colt's it will be much easier to recognize something out of place. This is an expensive undertaking. Friend or no friend, do not believe what the last seller told your friend about each of the Colt's, probably years ago. Verify! Feel comfortable or walk away. 

 

As a heads up, the actuator on NO 4417 is suspect. If one thing is wrong on a Colt's, the chances something else is wrong is great magnified. Also double check the actuator on NAVY NO 7126. I have a complete chapter on the Colt era 28 NAVY actuators. I have seen too many GI actuators in Colt NAVYs over the years. Be suspicious. Take my book and a pen with you. Write down what you see in the margins. The cost of my book is nothing compared to a Colt's.

 

And enjoy the time spent looking at these great American icons!  


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#8 MrBill

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 03:38 PM

i was told years ago,if you cant afford all three and the condition is equal get the 21A


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 03:43 PM

I like the Navy overstamp myself, all things being equal, but I'm sure it's not the most collectible.


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 04:15 PM

Thanks everyone! 

 

I am leaning towards the 21A, but I too thought the actuator looked odd.  The stock is also cracked on the 21A at the front, so I may have to pass on it - or adjust the price accordingly. 

 

Once TD's book arrives, and I have a chance to disassemble them, I will know better what I am dealing with and report back.


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 04:24 PM

Nice looking guns!  Yes, I would definitely get TD's book and study it before you make your choice, you won't regret buying it.  I also agree with TD, the actuator on 4417 is not a Colt actuator, and like he says if one thing is wrong, quite often there are other things wrong.


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 04:28 PM

Id choose the navy or the AC personally because of the condition
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Posted 11 June 2019 - 10:15 PM

Get Tom's book and then make a decision, and don't forget to check the internal parts to ensure they are Colt not GI.  


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 11:57 PM

Get Tom's book and then make a decision, and don't forget to check the internal parts to ensure they are Colt not GI.  

 

Thanks Frank, will do.  

 

I just re-read American Thunder today, to get myself back up to speed on various items. 


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 07:26 AM

buy all three and tell the wife these were on sale........I just couldn't resist.


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 11:50 AM

buy all three and tell the wife these were on sale........I just couldn't resist.

This kind of help I do NOT need...    (Don't think this has not crossed my mind.)   :D


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 06:57 PM

As you said,you are trying to establish a fair price for each.
That said, these guns don't come up for sale too very often.
I would feel terrible separating the family and so my advice would be to buy all three as a group!
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Posted 12 June 2019 - 08:12 PM

I have been looking for a 21a. I would be interested in talking to the owner if you pass. Send me a pm
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Posted 12 June 2019 - 08:22 PM

As you said,you are trying to establish a fair price for each.
That said, these guns don't come up for sale too very often.
I would feel terrible separating the family and so my advice would be to buy all three as a group!

Just tell your wife you got a twofer.  She'll be so damned mad that she won't even notice the third one


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 08:56 PM

Tell your wife you bought them for her, who could not be happy with a gift like that.
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