Petroleum 1 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Looking at the pics do you guys think this is original finish? Tia Vinny https://machineguncentral.com/ViewDetails.aspx?p=307--cd5bfb8e-ba7d-4564-aad7-309ffee34880 Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1957 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Pictures suck. Why take all the close up of the mags and pouch if they are not included in the sale. The sling is not a MP-40 sling. Looks like it has three cuts in it, so is for a Rifle, not the MP-40. Until you see photos, that show what "all" the matching numbers are, then I would proceed with caution. The current photos leave alot to be desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) nice to show a Nazi flag prominently when its not even part of the sale............1st photo would make you think they are selling Nazi flags looks too good to be original finish from the pics provided and says # matching, but with no photo proof top dollar wanted for blah photo's w/ limited verbal information Edited November 29, 2017 by huggytree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taeelec Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 It doesn't look like original finish to me. The roll marks aren't crisp and you don't see the fine machine/ tooling marks on the receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolt Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Refinished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) I agree with everything mentioned so far. I sent off an email asking if the bolt, recoil tube and firing pin are matching too? The slings for these guns have always confused me. The original 40 sling had a diamond pattern on it like the K98 but i see a lot of smooth leather slings claiming to be originals idk. Offering the gun with one mag and no pouch is a joke. The Nazi flag is probably part of the vets bringback booty but not necessary either if its not part of the sale. Edited November 29, 2017 by Petroleum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Refinished for certain. A tip off is that the Bakelite stock has considerable handling rash while the rest of the gun does not. The gun's been buffed. It's a bit too shiny, and the finish is too even. MP-40s had a slightly dull appearance to them when new, not polished at all. The little surface imperfections left over from manufacturing processes were clearly visible. These guns were originally hot dip blued, which wasn't a durable finish. With any handling or use at all the bluing quickly went thin or missing. The pic is of my own MP-40. The finish is thin everywhere, typical of a gun that was issued and used. The gun is otherwise in great shape. This is what you're looking for, or one that's in original new condition. They're rare, but they are out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Baron Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Unfortunately, not too many original, matching mp40s on the market right now. Got to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Thanks for that photo tsmg i will use it for reference. Franks will probably discount the gun on the next weekly email. Amazing he can throw this stuff up there mention all matching numbers with no pics of all the matching markings and expect it to be sold. I really believe some of these sellers would rather put less info and just hope they get an impulse sale and be done with it instead of providing the required amount of necessary information. Edited November 29, 2017 by Petroleum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Never mind. Figured it out. Edited November 29, 2017 by ppgcowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Thanks for that photo tsmg i will use it for reference. Franks will probably discount the gun on the next weekly email. Amazing he can throw this stuff up there mention all matching numbers with no pics of all the matching markings and expect it to be sold. I really believe some of these sellers would rather put less info and just hope they get an impulse sale and be done with it instead of providing the required amount of necessary information.he does it because people see a MP40 and just buy it once in a while....they dont think about the finish or proof its matching numbers....they trust and dont care about pics...no other explanation why all the big sellers give short descriptions and few pics.....yet the guns always sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1957 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 That's why NFA is so collectible. No more product, way more collectors. We are the minority that do any research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 i dont know if we are in the minority or not, but i think the big dealers sell to people who are fine with 2-3 pics.......maybe many are rich and just want a machine gun..some dealers seem annoyed when you ask for more pics, like its not normal....many wont give you more or make it a long drawn out thing to get more pics.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifthmdec Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) The big dealers do not post on the message boards for the most part. I am sure that many are not honest and forthcoming in any information about their NFA for sale. If youve been buying and selling for sometime. The pattern is obvious. If we are speaking about Frank G and a few other high end sellers online. Advertising is everything... Edited November 30, 2017 by fifthmdec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifthmdec Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Just an observation... Edited November 29, 2017 by fifthmdec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 When it comes to his sales the first thing that comes to mind are the advertising ethics of a used car salesman. As soon as I see his name I move on to something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Franks is saying the gun is all matching numbers and is original finish as well BUT they are strictly going by what the seller is saying and franks does not have the gun in house yet. Whew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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