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Someone paid $2,000 for this. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/unsure.gif Maybe I'm in the wrong line of work! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

 

http://photobucket.com/albums/v716/walter63a/cleaningkitwithitems.jpg

 

Nick, Photobucket is great and very easy to use. Thanks!! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Walter63a @ Feb 16 2005, 06:03 PM)
Someone paid $2,000 for this. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/unsure.gif Maybe I'm in the wrong line of work! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

http://photobucket.com/albums/v716/walter63a/cleaningkitwithitems.jpg

Nick, Photobucket is great and very easy to use. Thanks!! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Hmmmm....

I wonder if it is an original parts kit with original parts....

 

Doug

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Frank has had this case at several of the Indy 1500 shows and at the Knob Creek show last year. Asking $2500 for it there. Is it worth it? Only if you have more money then sense.
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I know that I need my head examined, but I just bought the rod for my Colt 1921 and FBI case. But, I have the original case, and need that rod to go with it, I guess.

 

Sniper

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Did you just buy that dog painting also? http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Here's the case.

 

http://www.galatiinternational.com/frankpics/closedcasewithkey.jpg

 

Open case;

 

http://www.galatiinternational.com/frankpics/opencasewithkey.jpg

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QUOTE (AZDoug @ Feb 17 2005, 02:09 AM)
QUOTE (Walter63a @ Feb 16 2005, 06:03 PM)
Someone paid $2,000 for this.    Maybe I'm in the wrong line of work!  http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

http://photobucket.com/albums/v716/walter63a/cleaningkitwithitems.jpg

Nick, Photobucket is great and very easy to use. Thanks!! 

Hmmmm....

I wonder if it is an original parts kit with original parts....

 

Doug

Exactly AZDoug. For instance, maybe someone could tell me if that is genuine Colt string (numbered or not)! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif The plastic (or whatever) brush is a nice touch. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif Are those springs, etc. true colt parts? http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif

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What Barnum said. You know there are the Darwin awards. I think at years end we should have the most overpriced (actually sold) item and a nice award to go along with it.

 

The asshat who paid 4K for a tin box is in the lead right now IMHO.

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GH's repro parts box has already impacted the market. It was a rare day indeed when one of the originals revealed its Unicorn like presence. Now two or three have appeared out of the Veldt in the last several months. The prices of these seem to drop exponentially with every new sighting. In that respect, GH's contributions to stemming the tide against TSMG ancillary parts "greed" is welcome.
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posted tonight on sturm by Jerry Prasser - it's on the wrong board so Buddy will delete it:

 

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/semiforu....cgi?read=58959

 

NFA and Semi-Auto Forum

 

warning!! Frank Gallati

 

Posted By: JerryP

Date: 2/18/05 18:13

 

Just to warning on this guy. A few days ago, he posted some Colt Thompson accessories to include a spare parts kit, semi complete at $2000. I called him within a few minutes of the posting (on this board) , I asked if it was still available. He said yes, that I was the first caller. I told him I would take it. He said it was mine and to add $15 for shipping. I said money would go out same day. About 6:oo that night I get a call from another dealer asking me questions about how to tell if a spare parts kit is authentic. I asked if the pertained to the kit that was on the board earlier today. I told him I had already purchased it. He said no, Frank sold it to him! I spent all day trying to track down Galati, he finally left me a voice mail saying that the kit was sold to someone else and he would try to get another one at the Creek. My guess is that he got more money from the other guy. The reason that I'm writing this is that there may be other guys who have sent him money for the kit or other items he was selling. This guy is a real stroker without any ethics! The guys name is Frank Gallati in MO.

 

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There sure seems to be a whole lot more crooks in the colt kingdom than in the WW2 TSMG world. My Mattel Toy has tons of NON colt parts on it, I put them there. I have never actually purchased anything "Colt" for it. The people at Colt are pure asshats, ask anyone who knows jack about Colt these days. Colt is a stupid company today and years ago.
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I got an email from the seller last night telling me that he had sold the rod. Even though he told me that he had sold it to me. Luckily, I didn't have a chance to send out the check yet.

 

Guess I'll have to live with a Gordon cleaning rod.

 

Sniper

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The value of the board is the quick way in which a phony is discovered. This is not the first time we have seen something of like kind. How many 95% + thompsons are offered for sale, and then someone posts a warning that the gun is a rebuilt piece of crap. I am always suspect of any posting where the serial number is covered.

 

Great job on the part of the readers... I have been burned one time, took time to locate the person, but after a long time got my money back. An EBay purchase.

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It would be my bet that Frank did not really ship anything at all, spare parts kit, cleaning rod, or FBI case.

It is my opinion his demand was so high that he realized that he was so underpriced. I too received an email that he sold the metal spare parts kit to somone else, funny he did not mention that when I spoke to him, or that I needed to overnite funds to get it to beat someone else. He is going to sit on this stuff and quietly sell it for it's real value to a collector. I know one guy I will never deal with again.

 

Arthur as for your comment on the drop in prices on metal spare parts kits, I don't see it. The last "empty" metal kit that sold was for $3,750 I hardly consider that a price drop. Price drop from what? What would it cost to find original parts to fill that one?

 

Further, I do not consider this last transaction and we are not sure that anything really moved for $2,000 was a real transaction, maybe more a slip of ignorance. It was also missing key pieces as the firing pin was not Colt and there was no original extractor or chamber price. Chamber brush would be easy to find, now the firing pin and extractor would take some doing. Regardless I guarantee Frank realized he underpriced it to the market, whether he shipped it or not.

 

On the other hand all of us woke up big time on this guy, Frank. I bought stuff from him before and now never will be able to deal with him again.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Galati International"

To:

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:15 AM

Subject: Parts Kit

 

 

Hello Michael,

Frank has already received payment from another individual who next day

aired the funds. We will send you a refund once we receive your funds if

you have already sent them.

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I bought my 28 from Frank. He had good references and was reliable in sending it, but I also got the impression that he is the wheeler dealer type. As an example, he wanted 1500 for a Crosby L drum. I declined on the drum. I hear you guys. Sometimes you want the item badly enough that you are forced in the position of trust. I think Sig has it figured out.
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Sig,

You seem to be staunchly defending the notion that spare parts boxes are not supposed to be sold for under $6K since they are incredibly rare and desirable. But recent transactions just do not validate your assumption. Did you contact the seller in an effort to buy the box, or advise him he was selling it too cheaply?

 

The box on ebay was advertised for 11 days with nearly a 1000 hits on it, yet only one weak-kneed buyer waited to the last day to eschew the ridiculous "Buy It Now" figure and committed to the $3750 figure. So where was the stampede of collectors to obtain this piece? Or maybe you don't think real "collectors" tune in to ebay? The ebay ad was also posted here. Does this board attract "true" TSMG collectors?

 

To now "explain" Galati's $2K price for the box (and the case and rod also?) as merely a trial balloon to see the amount of response he would get from his ad, may indeed have been the unintended result of the calls, but don't tell me he was "ignorant" of what the box was worth in the first place. He still wanted $2.4K for that case with the staples going through the back end and new hardware. Where is the "under value" in that monstrosity?

 

Apparently Galati is also confident that he can easily find another box at the Creek in order sell it to Jerry P, the first caller on the box, and among the several people he stiffed. DO you see this optimism about locating another box as "ignorance" also, or merely just another of his bullshit tactics?

 

So now Galati is going to "sit" on these accessories and wait for some imaginary enlightened 'true" collector to step up to some secret figure. Since his ad appeared on Sturmgewehr and here, who the Hell do you think the buyers were who called him? Since you were hot on the trail of the box, do you consider yourself not among the "true" collectors?

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Arthur

I will buy everyone of the $2,000 original spare parts kits you have.

Just email me and I will overnite funds.

I never mentioned a price over $3,750, I asked you what the price had fallen from, meaning I did not think $3,750 was cheap.

Enough already. If you believe Frank was desperate to sell at $2,000 because he could find no buyers at a higher price, so be it. I for one don't believe it.

Doesn't make you wrong or right anymore than me.

I shared my opinion plane and simple. Obviously you didn't like it.

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Interesting post all the way around. Quick question: Is there any doubt as to the authenticity of the small parts box (not the contents) offered for sale by Galati?

 

It appears philasteen purchased the small parts box from Galati. Anyone on this board have any doubts about what philasteen posted?

 

It appears snipershot1944 purchased the cleaning rod from Galati. Anyone on this board have any doubts about what snipershot1944 posted?

 

Sig, another regular on this board who actually has done business in the past with Galati, states that he will do no more business with Galati as a result of this advertisement.

 

The posts by philasteen, Sig and snipershot1944 speak volumes to me about the reputation of this seller.

 

The debate by John, Jr. Arthur and Sig about the worth and price of the small parts box is fantastic. Keep it up – this is one of the things that make this board so interesting and great.

 

One thing I do not understand is why Galati posted these pieces at the prices offered in the first place. It seems quite unlikely he would not know the desirability of these pieces. However, I never spend time trying to figure out what is going on between the ears of sellers who have less than a sterling reputation. Experience has taught me that honest and less than honest people have much different thought patterns and it is impossible for either type of seller to figure out what makes the other type tick.

 

fullauto45 – If we see each other this spring at the creek, please point out Galati to me. I would like to have a face to go with the reputation.

 

Thanks for all the posts. I would bet many people will save money in the long run because of what you have posted.

 

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Sig,

The responses to your thread were based on your own reporting that the box sold for $2K. Naturally, you had already contacted the seller with your own offer to buy before posting the ad and the update on the sold box. But we must now dismiss this price since this was all a charade and the deal was too good to be true? The last advertised selling price for an empty box, that I am aware of, was $3750. That sure looked like a precipitous drop in value to me.

 

You consider a $2K price tag for this box/parts to be an act of desperation? Seems that he had exactly the right price in that he got action from several interested parties. If he advertised it for $2.5K would you still have called? How about $3K? We now know that interest in this accessory drops off severely when the price approaches $3K. So exactly how much more profit do you see him making above the $2K figure? Is this mystery figure worth his now obliterated reputation as a principled seller? But the real rub is that the box's widely advertised selling price of $2K, whether the deal was ever consummated at that figure or not, will effect the next box that someone tries to off for over $3K.

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I doubt DR's drums will impact the value of the Colt Numbered, NO, and blank drums. They are part and parcel of the functioning part of the TSMG and they have direct lineage to the Colt TSMG. Did the two or three guys who now make repro FBI/Police cases affect the price of 1930's made cases? The prices of the "original" cases that do not bear the makers tag of one the original companies seem to have been affected by the introduction of the repro cases.

 

If there are some out there who would gladly pay more than $3700 for a parts box, they must not be too vigilant since they had ample opportunity to do the "Buy It Now" option or even bid against the one successful buyer on ebay.

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