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#1 73hemicuda

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 06:20 PM

Has anybody used one of these barrel vises for a thompson? Any idea if they're any good or not? Thanks

 

https://www.ebay.com...353.m1438.l2649


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#2 Sig

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 06:29 PM

How could that work with the grip mount in place?


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#3 BillyDixon

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 07:17 PM

no way thats for a thompson barrel, go research doug richardsons  web sites and see a photo of g.i. ordnance repair barrelvice fir thompsons, dont try to save a buck with some incorrect tool, just sayn


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Posted 21 November 2019 - 07:55 PM

I bought a Thompson barrel vise from e bay after Doug had sold out. The receiver part was fine but had to work on the barrel removal tool for it to work. I wish someone would make one like Dougs That one on e bay now I dont think will work on a Thompson


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#5 73hemicuda

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 09:32 PM

Ok, thanks. I figured it probably wouldn't work. I Wasn't sure if it would work if the grip mount was removed. I've been looking for a while for a used doug richardson one but cant find one.


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#6 ron_brock

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 10:00 PM

Ok, thanks. I figured it probably wouldn't work. I Wasn't sure if it would work if the grip mount was removed. I've been looking for a while for a used doug richardson one but cant find one.


The barrel has to come off first before the grip mount will come out due to a tab on the mount behind the barrel shoulder, unless the grip mount has been modified.

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#7 73hemicuda

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Posted 26 November 2019 - 05:19 PM

Are there any other good quality barrel vises that will work, other than the ones made by Doug Richardson?


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#8 mohawk64

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Posted 27 November 2019 - 04:47 AM

Someone send me a barrel vise ,. I will make several copies. I can see how needed they are
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Posted 27 November 2019 - 12:28 PM

I will buy one, if they are available for sale in the future!


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Posted 27 November 2019 - 12:45 PM

I would take one as well


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#11 mohawk64

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Posted 27 November 2019 - 01:33 PM

I can probably make one if provided pictures. Actually more than one.
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#12 Rimcrew

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Posted 27 November 2019 - 02:04 PM

Anyone have pics of Dougs barrel tools?
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Posted 27 November 2019 - 04:36 PM

Mohawk64

I would think that you would need the tool itself as this has to be exact for it to work easily.

I would buy one if it was a exact copy of Dougs

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Posted 27 November 2019 - 05:03 PM

I would be happy to sell mine but someone needs to buy my Thompson first. B)


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Posted 27 November 2019 - 05:48 PM

I am working on this project with another board member. I hope to post some positive news very soon. I would appreciate any replies, to test the waters and see how much actual interest there is.
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Posted 27 November 2019 - 05:49 PM

Jim - any chance you would loan it out to be reproduced.  I'd be willing to pay you a "royalty" for each tool I buy, to reimburse you for the use.

 

Just a thought...


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Posted 27 November 2019 - 11:12 PM

Count me in as being interested in a barrel vise if it's reproduced accurately for correct function.

 

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Posted 28 November 2019 - 10:01 AM

The big question is what will these sell for? Back when Doug was making them
I believe they sold for $95. There is no way they could be made and sold at that price
today, and Doug was never in it for the money - he did it all for his love of all things
Thompson.
The barrel vise consists of a machined steel block with a round recess for the
barrel and a precisely formed bent flat piece with a matching radius to clamp the
barrel. Four hardened steel threaded studs are welded to to the flat piece which
interlocks with the block to clamp the barrel. Figuring how to hold and weld the studs
Is a real challenge.
I have thought about making these for a few years now but to make it worth
while I figure it would have to sell for at least $245 and even then it would not be
much of a money maker.
Hey, if somebody starts making these I'll buy one too! But how much?

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Posted 28 November 2019 - 11:52 AM

Here are pics....

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Posted 28 November 2019 - 12:17 PM

Excellent Photos.  Thanks for posting, Bob.

 

For those who aren't familiar with these, that is Doug's "Universal Barrel Wrench";  It can be used without removing the comp or ring sight.

Anyone contemplating making this wrench would benefit from redesigning the bolted piece into a solid unit, with holes for four replaceable bolts, rather than the welded bolt stubs Doug chose to use.  These bolts are the weak point in the design, and have been known (In two instances I am aware of) to break a weld.

 

 

Dougs "Heavy Duty Barrel Wrench" is a totally different, much stronger and nearly indestructible one piece design that wraps around the barrel, but requires removal of the comp or ring sight.  It wraps around approximately 2-1/2 inches of the barrel.  

Maybe someone who owns one can post photos and the exact measurements.

I don't know how Doug manufactured his, but it would be a relatively easy job for a wire EDM.  Not saying it would be inexpensive.

The handle is not furnished.  The 1" hole in the left end has a setscrew to retain a handle of the user's chosen length.

 

With full credit and acknowledgement to Doug,

here is his drawing of his Heavy Duty Barrel Wrench, as shown in his Thompson Submachine Gun Workshop Manual.

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