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#1 John Dillinger

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Posted 08 June 2021 - 03:38 PM

This is an original press photo from my collection of weapons seized from killer Fred Burkes home after he killed a policeman in St Josephs MI on December 16th 1929.
The 2 Thompson Sub Machine Guns were later found to be the ones used in the Saint Valentines Day Massacre by ballistics expert Calvin Goddard.


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Posted 08 June 2021 - 05:00 PM

Awesome photo...Burke wasn't someone to fool around with. :)

 

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Posted 09 June 2021 - 07:54 AM

They were brought to the TATA shoot some years ago.

Lots of history!


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#4 John Dillinger

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Posted 09 June 2021 - 11:18 AM

Thanks for the feedback & info fellas.
Heres the backside of the photo.
Note the info.

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#5 Ryo

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Posted 09 June 2021 - 02:47 PM

That's very cool. Thanks for sharing the backside of the photo.


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Posted 09 June 2021 - 02:52 PM

The Thompsons are very cool, but I want to know about the Colt Government, the Winchester Model 07, the Savage Model 99, the Western Field Model 30, the tear gas hand grenades, heck even the drums and ammunition. Unfortunately their histories seem to have been lost.

 

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#7 Desperado419

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Posted 12 June 2021 - 05:33 PM

Hans,I too would like to know more about these, especially the Westernfield. Had seen it listed as a 1897 Winchester before, looks to me like a chopped 520/30.
I got a good pic somewhere of a Raymond Hamilton bank job load out, heavy on shotguns and a couple 351s
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Posted 13 June 2021 - 02:15 PM

Ah! A fellow gangster arsenal enthusiast. Yeah, that photo of the Hamilton loadout is pretty neat. Three different shotguns, Winchester Model 07s, MK II tear gas grenades, ammunition ...

 

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#9 John Dillinger

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Posted 15 June 2021 - 02:58 AM

Ah! A fellow gangster arsenal enthusiast. Yeah, that photo of the Hamilton loadout is pretty neat. Three different shotguns, Winchester Model 07s, MK II tear gas grenades, ammunition ...

 

Cheers

 

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Yes Hans couldn’t agree more!


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Posted 27 November 2021 - 10:41 PM

No post's in a while on this board,

 

I wonder if Mike is still doing his presentations since he has retired ?


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#11 HANS

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Posted 28 November 2021 - 03:41 AM

I am still researching gangster gats, have added a ton of info to my manuscript. I also recently penned a long article on the converted Winchester carbines used by the Dillinger, Barker-Karpis, Stewart etc gangs that I hope to place with a publisher.

 

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Posted 01 January 2022 - 08:48 PM

Awesome photo...Burke wasn't someone to fool around with. :)

 

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Well, subguns are impressive, for sure. Nothing like a Tommy Gun for clearing a room quickly?

 

But a person hanging back with a scoped rifle, or on the scene with a precision pistol in a back corner is still an adversary to beware of?

 

I have this sneaky feeling that a person wielding a subgun has a feeling of being invincible?

 

It only takes one well placed shot, however, to bring things to a halt?

 

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#13 Caponeophile

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 12:06 PM

According to some stories from various researchers, the police department snatched some of these guns for their own lacking arsenals back then. By the time of his arrest, Fred Burke was one mean drunk and totally paranoid. When arrested, he had thought it was Capone men coming to do him in. This guy may have been suffering from PTSD after serving in WW1.


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