Sharpshooter2015 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Can someone tell me if this is an authentic Colt Thompson Blish lock? There are no markings on either end indicating that it would be auto ordinance or savage. If it is a Colt, what would the value be? ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) The font and arrow look correct. The arrow point is slightly different on the Colt Blish locks as opposed to the Savage and AOC locks. Id say it is a Colt Blish lock. As far as price, it depends on if someone really needs a Colt Blish lock to complete a bolt assembly. They all work the same and should be interchangeable. It should be worth a premium to a Colt Thompson collector. Edited February 24, 2018 by gijive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK. Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Can you post a side view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1957 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 There was a forum member who recently purchased an entire Colt bolt assembly minus the Blish lock. Maybe he would be interested in this. It is the last part he needs for his Colt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 I cannot find the post that I did before and have since deleted the file. Here are a few different photos of a colt, an aoc and three Savages. If better photos are needed of individuals, I can do it with a different camera for better detail. Hope these help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Sandman, do you recall the thread where I posted the picture uf the three blish locks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Sandman, do you recall the thread where I posted the picture uf the three blish locks? http://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21508&page=3&hl=%2Bcolt+%2Bblish+%2Block+%2Bmarking&do=findComment&comment=188059 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Can someone tell me if this is an authentic Colt Thompson Blish lock? There are no markings on either end indicating that it would be auto ordinance or savage. If it is a Colt, what would the value be? ] Savage in the photo.The horizontal lines of the Savage P are longer than the Colt. The AOC P is nearly identical to the Colt.The vertical lines of the U and P are parallel in the Savage; the colt U has slightly tapered lines, wider at the top.The Colt arrow tip is an exact inverted V over a straight line, the savage arrow tip is more of a triangle sitting on the line.The AOC arrow tip is much narrower than the others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Thanks Arthur! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) Sharpshooter2015 et al, Upon further review of some Blish locks I have in my collection, I have to retract my earlier statement and agree with mnshooter. The font and arrow look more like the Savage example I have shown below. If the sides of the Blish lock truly do not have the Savage S, it may have been buffed off. As PK requested, please post pictures of the sides of the lock. I guess I should have checked the Blish locks I have before making the previous statement. Questioned Savage Savage AOC AOC AOC Colt Colt Colt Colt Colt Colt Edited February 25, 2018 by gijive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Great pictures and information by everyone, especially ppgcowboy and gijive. This would make an excellent pinned Thread for the reference section. Hat's off!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter2015 Posted February 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Hello All. Thank you for your expertise, especially to gijive, PK, TD, Sandman1957, ppgcowboy, ArthurFliegenheimer, and mnshooter. This is a great brotherhood of friends helping friends. I was looking to purchase this to make my 21 complete. If anyone has one they are willing to part with, please reach out to me. I appreciate all your feedback. Someone asked for additional photos. They are attached below. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gijive Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) Sharpshooter2015, Thanks for the extra photos, I don't know what to tell you on the pictured Blish lock? The font and arrow appear similar to the Savage lock, but the ears don't appear to have been ground or buffed. Maybe it is a Savage lock that escaped being stamped with an "S"? If the price is right, you might want to consider it. I don't know if you would ever be able to prove if it is a genuine Colt Blish lock or not. If the price is the same as the Savage locks usually found for sale on eBay and Gunbroker, why not get it? I don't believe anyone would be able to tell the difference and if it is a Savage unmarked lock, it is somewhat of a rarity. If the price is way over the going price for a WWII lock, then I certainly wouldn't pay a premium for it. Maybe an in-person inspection by someone with a machining background (like PK) could tell you if the lock has been altered to remove the contractor stamp? Good luck. Just to complicate matters a bit, I just found a Blish lock listed on GunBroker that is marked AOC and has a slightly different arrowhead and shaft than the previous AOC examples shown. There may have been changes made during the production of the locks, depending on the particular lot or order of parts. Maybe there are other variations, as well? Gunbroker item # https://www.gunbroker.com/item/750900995 Edited February 25, 2018 by gijive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) I also have a couple of what should be Savage locks, with no S stamped on the sides. They came from kits; for what that might matter.It makes no sense why the sides would be ground or filed without some reason.My best guess is that some just needed it to meet the gauges at the time of manufacture, and they weren't about to throw out the lot. Edited February 26, 2018 by mnshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 mnshooter, Good point! Thanks for the interesting input on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper28 Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I sold a Colt Blish lock a couple years ago here for $175 FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter2015 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hello,If anyone has an orginial Colt Blish Lock they are selling please reach out to me with contact info. & price.Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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