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#1 Petroleum 1

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 08:56 AM

Here is a weird one. Never heard of a WW2 semi auto version. Looks like the selector was removed. I think this gun would still be considered an nfa item. Price is ridiculous too.


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Edited by Petroleum 1, 28 July 2020 - 08:57 AM.

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#2 TSMGguy

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 09:23 AM

I think this gun may be like an M14 that has the "button" installed rather than a selector switch. It may currently be semi-auto, but it's "readily" convertible to FA. 


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Posted 28 July 2020 - 02:38 PM

how about the barrel length ? would not touch this with 10 foot pole !! just sayn.


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Posted 28 July 2020 - 04:01 PM

I do not think it left the factory this way, i have never heard of a original semi only 43-44 rifle. Is the magazine release button flush with the receiver to?


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Posted 28 July 2020 - 05:19 PM

Receiver doesn't appear to have been "destroyed" to meet ATF requirements for rendering an unregistered MG a "non-gun" and it is not a repro receiver. Unless I'm missing something, converting an existing, complete MG receiver to a semi-auto is a no-no, so all other issues downstream of that are irrelevant.
 


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#6 Robert Henley

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 06:39 PM

46.5K for a "semi-auto?"  Doesn't pass the smell test.


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Posted 31 July 2020 - 07:32 AM

dang that's a lot of moola


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Posted 01 August 2020 - 07:31 PM

But this is a one of a kind wonder weapon in semi-auto.  I think it is undervalued by 55k.


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Posted 01 August 2020 - 07:46 PM

And the listing ended (or was pulled) with no bids.  Hard to imagine why.


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Posted 03 August 2020 - 08:50 AM

I went back a forth with this seller. Told him to do his homework. I said someone can slap a lower on that gun and its fa. He said so? The AR is the same way? Duh i told him the AR lower is the controlled part. On the MP44 the UPPER IS THE CONTROLLED PART!! After that exchange the add was pulled.

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Posted 03 August 2020 - 11:29 AM

I do not think it left the factory this way

So do i

It looks like the selector holes have been filled by a sheet metal part that has been brazed from inside 

The takedown pin for the stock also looks strange

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Posted 03 August 2020 - 02:36 PM

The description about this gun being a rare semi auto variant and the price made my blood boil. I own a 43 and feel like i know these rifles but i went to a friend of mine first who ONLY collects sturms. He said it was total bs so i sent the seller a note telling him to wake up hes dreaming and selling a machine gun lol

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Posted 03 August 2020 - 09:11 PM

Would be ironic if this is an actual dewat and registered.   I highly doubt it, but would be funny if someone took the trouble to turn it into a functioning semi-auto and come up with a BS story not realizing it was legal all the time.   


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Posted 04 August 2020 - 03:43 PM


Would be ironic if this is an actual dewat and registered.   I highly doubt it, but would be funny if someone took the trouble to turn it into a functioning semi-auto and come up with a BS story not realizing it was legal all the time.   


I would think the seller is getting correct advice and is looking into just that
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Posted Yesterday, 05:15 AM

"a rare variant" probably refers to the MP-43 model, which is not rare, but more "scarce" than the MP-44 stamped rifles.  The fact that he states "rare variant"  directly after "semi-auto only" can be attributed to the seller's weak grasp of proper English rather than an attempt to state that semi-auto only rifles were originally issued by the Germans.  Either way, his word choice is an obvious attempt to hype the rifle's history, and the price is so ridiculously high, it leaves me speechless.  A properly re-welded MP-43 should cost less than $9000.00, home much less varies. 


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Posted Yesterday, 09:13 AM

So here's question: can a de-milied machine gun legally be re-welded and converted to semi-auto?

Once the receiver is cut, it's a "parts kit" but if you re-weld it what does it become?


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