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#1 GonePostal

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Posted 03 January 2004 - 12:21 PM

US Prop marked, original finish and wood M1A1 Savage Bridgeport gun with great bbl. No PD markings, everything kosher and looks to be un messed with but has some normal wear w/ dings, light stratches etc. Matching numbers and all, even has some old cosmoline in crannies. Once owned by Atomic Energy Commission after Uncle Sam gave it up.

Value? High and low please if you will.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted 03 January 2004 - 12:45 PM

whatever you feel you want to pay for it................

if you think its worth $8,000 and the seller says $9,000 and you pay that to him or her>>>you lied to yourself...............as far as what you think its worth............

africa.268.00
russia.250.00
east L.A.989.00
ukraine.50.00 they like ak's.........
the united state's.....................$20,000 and up to 250,000

naw!! make it a even million................so i can sell mine and retire totally...................

there is no chart of real worth.justalot of made up numbers in book's,from so called selling experts,{that becomes outdated every year so you buy the latest and best book!!!!}duh!!anybody figured out that marketing ploy yet????the 2004 ed is hitting the newstands now.....

so see how much the gun is worth that you are 'NOT SELLING"

so figure how much you have to spend right now,no loans,no selling off of other good's, cycles,car's,stock's bonds,gold,silver,or original 1921 thompson manual's......{first ed.}

and go get one,

if the sellers price seems too high.guess what it probably is in the first place..............

but we all have the jones to own one or get another......so be it...............now just do this,can you say SATAN!!!!

wink!!have fun guy.take care,ron
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#3 Ltcboy

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Posted 03 January 2004 - 01:21 PM

If you wanna know the real value of your M1A1 just ask Yuriy--he'll tell you the real value.
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Posted 03 January 2004 - 01:36 PM

Ouch, rough crowd today....

The way prices are going if you were able to get it for under 10K you did good. I've been seeing asking prices of 10-12k up to 14K.

Pre-sample M1/M1A1's are going for 5.5-6K. My buddy just bought a Colt 21/28 pre-sample for 10.5K..but it has history from the Nicaraguan National Guard/USMC.

Good luck!
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Posted 03 January 2004 - 08:38 PM

Hey GP, welcome to the forum. Hell, I didn't know you were interested in Thompsons. Is the greasegun cold, yet? What Bob said is a pretty accurate assessment of Thompson pricing. For that matter, Ron's right, too. He's probably forgotten more about Thompson's than I'll ever know. Anyway it sounds like you found the one I wanted when I traded for the WH. Good luck.
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Posted 03 January 2004 - 09:02 PM

Couple of board members just bought one apiece and paid like $7,500. I would think 10K is pushing the upper limits.

(whew! that Ron guys smoked way to much pcp in the 60's or something! laugh.gif dude, locate the shift key before starting a sentence!)

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Posted 03 January 2004 - 09:51 PM

Yes, Yes...i paid $7500 for mine a few months ago...but the veteran was very smitten with my personality. I ran an ad on gunbroker with a $15000 reserve and it went up to $14000.

I am glad it did not sell. I am growing quite fond of thompsons!

Mine sounds similar to yours with exception to the US Property markings...do you have pictures or detailed information you would like to share?

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Posted 03 January 2004 - 10:58 PM

Pic of prop markings.

So I'm getting mixed messages. Some say 7.5, some say 10K and yet you mention placing a gun on auction and seeing it go to 14K. If this is the case then I'd say the market is 14 right?

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 12:29 AM

[SIZE=1][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]I have done a whole lot of looking in the past two weeks. If it is an average kind of gun I would think 10 K is about right. If it is super crisp add a couple Gs. Try to find a doctor or better yet a lawyer and you might get real lucky. That always worked in the Luger business. No reason Thompsons should be any different. Hope I didn't offend any doctors or lawyers out there. I guess most of them just don't have the time to really get into this kind of stuff. ph34r.gif Hank
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Posted 04 January 2004 - 12:35 AM

just because one went up to 14k on an auction doesn't mean the market will hold that price. it's worth what someone will pay for it. i've seem most of the M1A1's hovering around 10-12K. email Bob Naess at Black River Militaria. he's had a lot of Thompson's go through his shop in the last year and those were the numbers he told me he's sold them for (actually he sold at like 10k, but has recently seen people asking 11.5K).

the 28's seem to be pushing 14-15K (WWII), so if i had a choice of an M1A1 or a 28 at 14-15K, i would sure as hell go for the 28, i wouldn't even touch the M1A1 at 14k, but that's just me.


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Posted 04 January 2004 - 01:43 AM

QUOTE (John Jr @ Jan 3 2004, 09:02 PM)
Couple of board members just bought one apiece and paid like $7,500.  I would think 10K is pushing the upper limits. 

(whew! that Ron guys smoked way to much pcp in the 60's or something!  laugh.gif dude, locate the shift key before starting a sentence!)

Jr

sorry you are so offeded by the bad speeeling,gramdmer,and the like.......................

at least i am not like some people on the net with all the colors of the rainbow,and all """CAP'S'''

but hey thats how they taught me in the corp................get the job done,whatever it take's...and if you piss some people off in the process..........you know you did the proper job.........wink!!!!
next time we meet up i will buy you a beer............and we can share thompson war tale's.............

as one of the members stated...........i have forgotten what most know about thompson's or was it somethin like that...........yep to much garinimal trank's..............darn L.S.D.experiment's............in "68"
{forgive me fadder i have sinned.......}

over: take care,ron
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Posted 04 January 2004 - 01:49 AM

Ron, I'm ROTFLMAO! blink.gif biggrin.gif ohmy.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Regards, Walter
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Posted 04 January 2004 - 09:41 AM

Back on the subject, The M1 should not go more than $10k for a real nice blued one from factory. I gave $7k for the M1 I got this year. Very nice and clean. It had been reworked and parked sometime in it's life. Lots of knot heads always ask enough to put their kids through a year or two of college but they don't get it unless somebody with more money than sense says I gotta have that. I know I sure as hell won't give $14k or $15k for a M1. Hell I wouldn't give that for a frickin' Colt. Just not really worth it. Now if I could find that other few model 1923's I would give a few bucks more, but not a '21 or 28 or M1.
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Posted 04 January 2004 - 10:45 AM

Where did you guys get your M1A1 for 7 to 10k? Are these W.H.? Seems like the recent listings for the original G.I. ones are now pushing 14K.
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Posted 04 January 2004 - 12:27 PM

Sgt: I agree with you. Original G.I. are pushing 14K. If you see a G.I. for 10k, don't hesitate too long. cool.gif
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Posted 04 January 2004 - 12:42 PM

Unless you have a Class III license and can legally purchase post 1986 sample NFA weapons, there is no way you will currently be paying $7K for a WWII era Thompson (benevolent WWII vet hand me downs aside) considering West Hurley's are getting over $7K today. $14k for an M1/M1A1 is hard to justify, but if that is what the market bears, then there ain't a whole lot one can do, except do without. B.A.R. A2's are getting $25K! If you were starting an NFA collection today, and you don't think that any firearm is worth more than $10K, your collection is going to be pretty limited.
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Posted 04 January 2004 - 01:39 PM

I watch the market VERY closely and that is what I see as well. I suspect that these recent purchases were one off deals from vets or estates that are few and far between. The gun I am referring to above is one that I can have at 11K flat and at this point I am convinced it's a good deal and possibly worth more than that already given the pricing I've seen (both listed and sold).

For instance, a garden variety used WH 28 gun with one stick and one drum mag just sold on subguns for 9.5K on a form 4. And that gun is not even a curio and relic firearm.

Yes I guess one can find a deal now and then as evidenced by my recent acquisition of an original M3 Gude Lamp greasegun for 4.5K but those deals are not representitive of the market. For a minute there guys you almost had me doubting the deal value of this Savage at 11k but regardless I'm going for it. Something tells me that I'd be nuts to pass on it and that you all would be all over it if I did.

Good input none the less and I'd be happy to buy ALL the original WWII Thompson guns you want to sell at 7.5 to 9K. Just email me and a check will be out immediately.

Somehow I don't think I'm going to get any takers.

LOL

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 04:05 PM

Here's the story Art. You just have to look around and ask the right people. They also threw in 2 Winchester model 7's cal 351. I have a line on 4 other guns right now that are under $8k each. Needless to say to you 3 are Colt guns. And no I won't tell you where they are. And no I am not a C3/SOT dealer. If I was I would have that BAR I want.
M1 article in newspaper
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Posted 04 January 2004 - 04:54 PM

Mike,
I can understand why you would want to keep secret a source for Colt and WWII Thomspons that sell for under $8K. But I do not understand why this source would deliberately want to cheat themselves from a profit that could easily be realized by advertsing on the open market? That's just un-American. Wouldn't it be neighborly to tell GonePostal where he could latch on to one of these $8K WWII M1's? I am sure he would offer a finders fee.

Since in the newspaper article you stated that you bought the M1 from a police department for investment purposes, as well as to shoot, I would guess that even if you would never pay $14K for that TSMG, you wouldn't be adverse to selling one for that kind of coin.

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 05:21 PM

Mike,

I read the newspaper article on your Thompson purchase - congratulations! However, being a European, I find it odd that your name is in there. Here we go to great lengths secluding the fact that we own guns. I look forward to reading about your range experience with it!

Regards,

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