
Colt 3rd Gen Drum Id - Rki
#1
Posted 23 July 2003 - 06:15 AM
Could anyone help me confirm heritage of these plates?
Thanks in advance.
Back plate
http://www.villageph...selected=383732
Front plate
http://www.villageph...selected=383732
#2
Posted 23 July 2003 - 07:38 AM
The drum you show is either a late model Colt manufactured drum (no serial number provision) or a first model Worcester Press drum. It is 1930's vintage and looks to be in nice shape. It is a drum made exclusively for the Colt made guns.
If the rotor is nickel colored it is an earlier drum, if the rotor is blued it is a Worcester Press drum.
Hope this helps.
#3
Posted 23 July 2003 - 07:43 AM
#4
Posted 23 July 2003 - 08:33 AM
Dan
#5
Posted 23 July 2003 - 08:53 AM
It obviously was made after 1928, hence the 1928 winding instructions. That is why I indicated it was 1930's vintage. Hawksnest is correct, if it dosen't have the spot welds in addition to the rivets, it the last model (no serial number provision) Colt made drum.
It still would be helpful to know the color of the rotor.
#6
Posted 23 July 2003 - 09:00 AM
#7
Posted 23 July 2003 - 01:53 PM
#8
Posted 23 July 2003 - 03:06 PM
#9
Posted 23 July 2003 - 03:41 PM
#10
Posted 23 July 2003 - 04:36 PM
Dan
#11
Posted 23 July 2003 - 05:06 PM
#12
Posted 23 July 2003 - 06:24 PM
#13
Posted 23 July 2003 - 06:28 PM
#14
Posted 23 July 2003 - 06:35 PM
That Drum was listed for a week or more. One would think it should have brought more than that...Good deal to whomever bought it!
#15
Posted 23 July 2003 - 07:28 PM
#16
Posted 23 July 2003 - 08:01 PM
I was surprised to learn that a company based in Brooklyn was given a goverment contract to produce 50 round drums and stick magazines. According to Frank's book, the New York District Ordinance Inspectors rejected all of the drums and sticks ( the company, The Charles Fischer Spring Company were suplied with some obselete mag drawings so I suppose they were doomed from the start). They were then all scrapped and the contract cancelled.
I think I shall go on a field trip in the following weeks to kent Ave. Brooklyn and see if the old building still exists, and better yet, if I can find an old timer who may have worked there and squirreled away a case of Fischer Spring 50 round Thompson Drums... Oh, I'll just by a lotto ticket!

Cheers, Zamm
#17
Posted 23 July 2003 - 08:27 PM
No, it was a complete minty matching Colt "L" Drum...Yes, that other "L" Drum has been up there for well over a year. Same goes for his "C" Drum. Indeed, WH Drums have been listed at $800.00, though I doubt anybody has spent that kind of money for one. Who knows, maybe a few have. Most I've Paid has been $600.00. Though I recently spent less than $250.00 for a WH 50Rd Drum too. All it takes is spending some time looking. It can save a person $$$$
#18
Posted 23 July 2003 - 11:39 PM
If a blue rotor (it's nickel) then it would be Worcester and is a new piece of information to me not mentioned in Hill's book.
My review of the font's specifically shown in Hill's book on page 331 makes me believe I am looking at a REAR plate from a Colt 3rd Generation. Looking at the FRONT plate and page 332 it seems from the fonts it is a Worcester.
The fonts are specifically mentioned in Hill's book as being different from the Colt 3rd Gen to the Worcester.
These are very subtle differences noted only when I look at where the letters alignment over the next row.
Hill's book mentions tack welds for the Worcester I have no idea how to determine that with this picture any ideas?
Thanks
Michael
#19
Posted 24 July 2003 - 12:44 AM
#20
Posted 24 July 2003 - 05:52 AM
That what makes this so wierd to me. The font spacing makes it seem as a Worcester. The tack weld makes it seem like a Colt.
I am soooo confused!
Michael