wju365 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I was firing this weapon not long ago and when the last round was fired and ejected the bolt was left open as usual....but I cant get it to close. Something is wrong as the slide part is loose and when you remove the mag and pull it back the action wont release and close forward. Might someone give me and idea what could be wrong? thanks Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbore Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) What do you mean when you say the bolt was left open after the last round as usual? And by "slide part" do you mean operating handle or operating slide? Whens the last time you scraped the carbon off the piston or the inside of the gas tube? Edited December 1, 2009 by bigbore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wju365 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 What do you mean when you say the bolt was left open after the last round as usual? And by "slide part" do you mean operating handle or operating slide? Whens the last time you scraped the carbon off the piston or the inside of the gas tube? Firing from an open bolt the bolt stays open after the last round is fired....thats what I mean...the blot is locked open and I cant get it to release. Normally I d remove the magazine pull the slide back and close the bolt. The slide is loose moving back and forth wo contacting anything and the bolt will not close. I m not too technical...but the bolt is stuck open and will not close. I hope that helps explain my problem a little better. Thanks Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbore Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) For starters the bolt is NOT supposed to say open after the last shot. There is no bolt hold open feature on BARs. When the mag is empty, the bolt should close on the empty chamber(with the trigger held back). When is the last time you field stripped the gun? If the bolt is back in the cocked position, the spring tension on in the operating slide should be pulling it closed. If you say the bolt is in the cocked position, but the operating slide is loose, it would seem the operating slide is broke or missing the hammer pin? Edited December 1, 2009 by bigbore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wju365 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 For starters the bolt is NOT supposed to say open after the last shot. There is no bolt hold open feature on BARs. When the mag is empty, the bolt should close on the empty chamber(with the trigger held back). When is the last time you field stripped the gun? If the bolt is back in the cocked position, the spring tension on in the operating slide should be pulling it closed. If you say the bolt is in the cocked position, but the operating slide is loose, it would seem the operating slide is broke or missing the hammer pin? I for some reason have it in my mind like a thompson the bar bolt is open after the last round but for sure I am not anything but an owner and firer of this gun. I havnt ever had a problem with it until now. What is the name of the pin in the slide...it is chrome looking...should it stick out and fit into the slide? Thanks...I know it is aggravating to help a non techie like me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee1917 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Ok , by "slide" I think you mean the cocking handle , the part you pull with your hand to cock the gun , located along the left outside of the reciever. Is that correct? If so , it catches a little pin to pull the bolt and all back . After the bolt is caught by the sear , you push the handle forward till it locks into the forward position. It does not move with the bolt during firing , it is only for cocking. Now , if the handle does not contact the pin , that must mean the pin is shoved to the right. It cannot be shoved to the right because the right side of the reciever prevents it from moving EXCEPT for the little hole in the right side the pin is inserted into the gun for assembly. It may have backed out into that hole , that would cause what you are describing , but I have NEVER seen that happen. Check that out and let us know. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee1917 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Or am I backwards here and it inserts through the cocking handle? Dang , I'll have to pull mine out tomarrow. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbore Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) Or am I backwards here and it inserts through the cocking handle? Dang , I'll have to pull mine out tomarrow. Chris The hammer pin comes out the right side, pushed out through the hole in the operating (cocking) handle. It is then installed from the right side. Either way, what the OP is describing doesnt add up. Is this gun a post sample? Are all parts USGI? Is this gun in the CONUS? I'm sorry, but The poor grammar and incorrect terminology is going to make this a hard one to diagnose. Do you have any pics? which of these parts are you talking about? http://www.adcofirearms.com/random/barparts.jpg Edited December 2, 2009 by bigbore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbore Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 .. the slide part is loose and when you remove the mag and pull it back the action wont release and close forward. Question: When The mag is out Bolt is locked back the slide part is loose What happens when you pull the trigger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wju365 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 .. the slide part is loose and when you remove the mag and pull it back the action wont release and close forward. Question: When The mag is out Bolt is locked back the slide part is loose What happens when you pull the trigger? It is locked open and will not close when the mag is taken out. It is a 1918 dated Wichester with no GI upgrade. the cocking handle slides back and forth wo contacting anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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