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#21 LIONHART

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Posted 20 January 2004 - 12:37 PM

QUOTE (Zamm @ Jan 19 2004, 09:36 PM)

God, give me Tracie's book or Frank's, they are far superior!


Even though Tracies book, "American Legend" is nicely put together, it's filled with numerous errors. Franks book on the other hand is different. Franks a researcher who did his homework before getting his book published. The Cox book along with Helmers "The Gun That Made The Twenties Roar" are Classics, and unless the Cox book is reprinted, will continue to rise in value.
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#22 Ron Mills

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Posted 20 January 2004 - 07:34 PM

Speaking of Bill Helmer, they tell me he has another book coming out next month. That's the buzz, anyway. Anybody know?
I'm curious: What kind of errors does Tracie's have in it? I thought he was pretty well informed. Does he still have the bed that John Thompson died in?
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Posted 20 January 2004 - 07:40 PM

Tracie not only has the bed Thompson died in, he has his officer's commission signed by the president and an unbelievable collection of rare prototypes and one of a kind Thompson materials. Some of it will be on display at this years show and shoot at NRA headquarters.
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Posted 20 January 2004 - 10:11 PM

QUOTE (Ron Mills @ Jan 20 2004, 07:34 PM)
Speaking of Bill Helmer, they tell me he has another book coming out next month. That's the buzz, anyway. Anybody know?
I'm curious: What kind of errors does Tracie's have in it? I thought he was pretty well informed. Does he still have the bed that John Thompson died in?

ron its the st.val's massacre.out in feb 04.another one to get........have his lester gillis one also,baby face. good stuff.i like those 38 super and 45 shortie full auto's,take care,ron
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Posted 21 January 2004 - 07:09 PM

The book is, The St. Valentine's Day Massacre: The Untold Story of the Gangland Bloodbath That Brought Down Al Capone.
I ordered it a year ago from Amazon. It was supposed to be shipped last July!


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Posted 21 January 2004 - 09:35 PM

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Unless it is a library version that has had the back serial numbers ripped out by some collector on an austerity program. Unless that library is the Library Of Congress, or the New York Public Library, I am not sure what local libraries even have this book on their shelves?


Arthur,
try " inter-library loan", there are about 35 of these books in libraies across the country. Your local will get it on loan for you.

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elsewhere, but show me where there is a $50 version, that still has its cover


Your talking about the book as an object here. That's fine, I understand that, and to collectors, the market will reflect the price.
Same with my first edition Dracula, I look at it more then just a book but an actual object.
But I'm looking at the Cox book as pure research info. This should be available at a different market, just like published scientific papers, which I also use.
Take care, Zamm
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Posted 21 January 2004 - 09:41 PM

If you want my copy Arthur, you can have it for $600.

Ill even autograph it so you can prove I owned it.

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Posted 21 January 2004 - 10:03 PM

Wonder why he doesn't have his publishers reissue the book? Sounds like easy money to me. Maybe prison soured him on the subject altogether.
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Posted 21 January 2004 - 10:15 PM

Cox would need to add additional info in order for the reissue to make sense, and dollars. With the advent of Hill's book, there is not much call for a 2nd addition Cox book, since there are still copies available to collectors provided they don't wince at the price.

John Jr,
When the Cox book came out (you were 7?), your mom might have read it to you as a bedtime story. Apparently it gave you nightmares. You now go through life haunted by an image of a Colt TSMG. The only cure is to sleep with the book under your pillow. So you better keep your copy.

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Posted 21 January 2004 - 10:39 PM

Its an interesting book, but Arthur is right, Hills book is better.

Its a collector book now.

Price is still $600 for Arthur, and $350 for everyone else.

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Posted 22 January 2004 - 12:09 AM

charlie steen from sarco fame owns the right's he bought it from roger,he has all the pages,note's,and printing plates,i think he has no intention of reprinting it at this time,

what you guys think i know nothin huh???


{if you only knew wink!!}

also rogers problems stemmed from a deal with j-steet in calif,importing guns from tula,the initial's on the man was c.f....roger did the time,the others paid a fine.......nuff said.i give roger credit he did at the time what nobody else was doing.................

a salute to him...............and yes i knew him personally...

and the rest is history..............

and john you tell me to get help..........i just read the post you posted to arthur in reply...........with all the colt's.............burp!!!!

i made a appointment for you friday at 6:00am.............i will pay the fee............wink!! have fun with this stuff guys..........and you to john.............."who loves ya baby" kojak
take care,ron
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#32 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 22 January 2004 - 09:23 AM

The seller "nodumbblonde99" revised the starting bid to $250 on 1/20. It still has an unknown reserve. Maybe people on ebay actually do read this website?
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Posted 22 January 2004 - 10:33 AM

Ron; those J st. initails- C.F. or E.F. ?
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Posted 22 January 2004 - 11:59 AM

Colt21a, Charlie sold the rights to an unknown buyer about two years ago. Perhaps someday the Cox Book will be reprinted.
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Posted 22 January 2004 - 12:12 PM

QUOTE (PK. @ Jan 22 2004, 10:33 AM)
Ron; those J st. initails- C.F. or E.F. ?

pk its e.f.threw in the {c} to see who was observant,i can see and know you are,we can never fool a man who works magic on the hur-lee's...........

takecare, and have a safe and profitable 2004.........ron
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Posted 22 January 2004 - 12:15 PM

QUOTE (LIONHART @ Jan 22 2004, 11:59 AM)
Colt21a, Charlie sold the rights to an unknown buyer about two years ago. Perhaps someday the Cox Book will be reprinted.

if thats true the new guy had to at least pay $10,000.00 funny that was about the same time he bought the ammo room from curtis earl................i made a offer,but charlie's rep./agent beat me to it..oh well at least they went to a nice guy..............take care,ron/colt21a
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Posted 22 January 2004 - 02:39 PM

I’ve known e.f. off and on for many years; I was not aware of the Cox connection however; interesting.
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Posted 22 January 2004 - 02:44 PM

yep p.k. its funny who you come across in this life of tommygun's...........but its still fun...............take care ron


and to think goldwater.......had a chance to buy a thompson..and said price too high........back in the eightie's..........{true story}
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