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#21 M1tommygun

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Posted 30 July 2003 - 10:24 AM

Tiger Bay,

Thanks. I want to know what has to be done before I can take a SBR out of state. I have read about some of the thing a person who owns a full-auto has to do. Do the same procedures apply to a SBR, or is there a different way to do it. Right now I am waiting on the SBR forms to arrive from the ATF.

What area of NC are you in. Again thanks.

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Posted 30 July 2003 - 12:03 PM

interstate movement of SBR requires the same procedure as FA.
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Posted 30 July 2003 - 12:39 PM

Pk is correct, you need to get a form 5320.20 approved for interstate travel. I'm located in Salisbury.
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Posted 30 July 2003 - 01:48 PM

I guess I will deal with the out of state movement whenever the time comes. Thanks for the info.

My wife and I are both originally from Lincoln Co. I have been to Salisbury several times. I know it is not too far from Lincoln Co. Do you have a store over there. If you do, I might have to get over there when we are down visiting our families.

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Posted 30 July 2003 - 03:58 PM

What if you have a C&R license? Can you transport then? The semi's are on the BATF list and it is my understanding that with the C&R the paperwork is not needed. I may be mistaken......any other takers??
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Posted 30 July 2003 - 05:06 PM

No Semi West Hurley's, or Kahr's, fall under the C&R regs, other than the commemorative Westy editions.
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Posted 30 July 2003 - 06:29 PM

M1Tommy:

I don't have a typical gunstore, since I only do it part time, but if you come to the area, let me know, I usually have some things to show... or shoot.

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Posted 31 July 2003 - 10:37 AM

Tiger Bay,
Sound good. Email me some contact info. Right now I do not know when I will be coming down to Lincoln Co. Maybe soon.

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Posted 01 August 2003 - 02:48 PM

Hello all,

I did not see this answer in the FAQ link. This may be something good to add. When it is time to get the short barrel installed on my SA Thompson, do I need to take it to a class 3 dealer / gunsmith to get it installed, or can I take it to a non class 3 gunsmith? If I can take it to a non class 3 gun smith, do I have to stay there while change is being done or can I leave it there untill it is finished? Thanks.

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Posted 01 August 2003 - 04:01 PM

A gunsmith with an 01 FFL can accept the gun for service, you do not have to wait.
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Posted 04 August 2003 - 02:23 AM

QUOTE (PK. @ Aug 1 2003, 04:01 PM)
A gunsmith with an 01 FFL can accept the gun for service, you do not have to wait.

Hmmm.. If you don't physically wait on it - then you are letting it out of your physical possesion, correct? And so would a tax-free temporary Form 5(?) (3?) have to be executed for the temporary change of possesion?


IMHO, knowing he has a pro-gun CLEO - available TODAY - I'd sell a kidney or take a 2nd/3rd mortgage to get the full-auto funds NOW.
That gun won't get any cheaper, and just as important, that pro-gun CLEO will be gone in the future, when he does finally have the funds.

Found all that out the hard way...
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Posted 04 August 2003 - 07:32 AM

Go to the ATF web site and check on "transporting" or something similar. No form 5 is required. I just send a copy of the form 4 with the gun. You'll need a copy of the smith's FFL a) to ship it and cool.gif to cover your butt. HTH
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Posted 04 August 2003 - 08:04 AM

In transfer to 01 FFL, form 5 is "suggested" but not required by ATF.
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Posted 04 August 2003 - 10:20 AM

Hi fellas,

I have several local gunsmiths to work with, including one at the store where I purchased the rifle. There also is a class 3 dealer who does a lot of smithing on NFA firearms I could use. I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row before I get a barrel change. Being that they are local, do I still need a transfer form? Sorry, I am kinda confused now blink.gif . Thanks for the info.

naffan, I wanted to get a full-auto, but there was no way I could justify the cost of one. I would be paying for the weapon and divorce procedings at the same time cool.gif . I figured keeping my family intact, especially with two young sons, was more important. Besides, hopefully I will end up with the next best thing, a semi-auto that looks like a full-auto. Maybe someday biggrin.gif .

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Posted 04 August 2003 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE (M1tommygun @ Aug 4 2003, 10:20 AM)
naffan, I wanted to get a full-auto, but there was no way I could justify the cost of one. I would be paying for the weapon and divorce procedings at the same time cool.gif . I figured keeping my family intact, especially with two young sons, was more important. Besides, hopefully I will end up with the next best thing, a semi-auto that looks like a full-auto. Maybe someday biggrin.gif .

Scott

Absolutely understand Scott! I too am certainly in no financial position to follow my own advice/dreams at this point myself.

Hope all works out for you!
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Posted 04 August 2003 - 11:16 AM

The personal bank loan (signature loan) I took out to pay for my Thompson costs me $153 a month for 4 years. Or would have had I not just sucked that laon into a refinancing of the home. After all that is done, my payments will be about $180 less per month between the house and Thompson loans. As far as I am concerned, the Tommy is paid for! It is the only way I could ever have owned one. The next one will either never happen or will come from inheritance! And, my wife sort of understood. Heck, I spend $150 a month on stuff more stupid than a Thompson. I just had to cut some of that out of my budget.
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Posted 04 August 2003 - 12:14 PM

Scott, I am sorry if your question about the transfer has not been adequately answered.

No form or other paperwork is required for the transfer from you to a gunsmith who has an FFL, that gunsmith may also return the gun directly to you without any paperwork. He will log the job in and out just like all others.

I guess there is a possibility of running into an “unlicensed gunsmith”, but he would have to be either very foolish or very daring to engage in such business. You would not be out of line to ask to see the FFL.

He will want a good copy of your approved form one to keep with the gun, but he has no right to retain it when he is done.

Reference pg. 141 of “Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide” (ATF p 5300.4 [01-00]), section I, item 15.


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Posted 04 August 2003 - 07:54 PM

PK,

Thanks for clearing that dark cloud out of my sky. Now all I have to do is (still waiting) get the paperwork filled out and sent.

Actually, I am in the process of re-financing my house to a much lower interest rate. I added two "pain in the arse" credit card bills in with it and am saving about $290.00 a month. I did take a short term signature for the rifle and extras for it for two years at $70.00 a month. I hope to pay it off sooner. To tell you the truth, I hated to add the credit cards to my mortgage, but I will have them and my house paid off (the Lord willing) in ten years. If I did not do this, I would not have be able to afford the rifle, soon hopefully, a short barreled rifle.

This got me thinking about the time walked into a gun store in the middle 80's, and on the counter was a M60 mg on a tripod. I asked the very nice lady behind the counter if it were real, and she said "yes" and for $6000.00 I could have it. I thought that was a fortune then. She told me they coud get me any legal full-auto I wanted. I think now that I could have purchased a Thompson fullauto for a song. If I knew then what I know now dry.gif !

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Posted 04 August 2003 - 08:43 PM

QUOTE (M1tommygun @ Aug 4 2003, 07:54 PM)
>>I think now that I could have purchased a Thompson fullauto for a song. If I knew then what I know now dry.gif !


Know what you mean. I recall when new WH1928's were being sold in 1977 for $800.00 - and as you say, a fortune. At least to an E4 back then. Plus that was a lot of cash for a "repro", when MG34s were under $800.00 and M16s were under $500.

Best I could afford at the time was a $75.00 MAC-10/45. I couldn't swing the extra $55.00 for the commercial Resing in Resing hard case with 4 20rd mags the guy had.

Guess which one has leaped in value over the years?

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Posted 04 August 2003 - 08:57 PM

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