Mint 1928a1 On Gunbroker
Posted 22 January 2004 - 02:06 PM
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Posted 23 January 2004 - 05:49 AM
Posted 23 January 2004 - 08:11 AM
Maybe there's a delicate balance to maintained...between not wanting to be self-righteous or a stool pigeon and quisling vs. being self-monitoring (collectively, as gun owners) and informing the ignorant. It's a tough call, but personally, since I'd have no dog in thiat fight, I wouldn't bother any of the three parties.
Posted 23 January 2004 - 09:09 AM
Posted 23 January 2004 - 09:54 AM
Posted 23 January 2004 - 01:01 PM
Oh, the "peeing in the pool" analogy is a good one! 1 point for Pathfinder! I agree with the rest of his reply as well. Many good replies have been posted on this topic. Nice going. Just my .0002 cents.
Posted 23 January 2004 - 04:21 PM
I have my own beef with the [lying liberal yellow-dog] mass media of this country, and they rarely if ever get anything gun-related right...according to them, every evil black rifle or centerfire semi-auto with a vaguely military look is an MG. Hellfire, Knob Creek is one of the oldest, biggest, and most publicized shoots of MGs in the US and yet the media is rarely ever heard to utter a word. With all the hardware in use there (and let's face it, there's a lot of pretty exotic stuff in action at KCR) where is the media howling about how dangerous these things are and about protecting us from ourselves?
Posted 23 January 2004 - 04:41 PM
Those Einsteins' who robbed the North Hollywood bank somehow managed not to kill any cop or bystander with their converted AKs'. If they had, the press might have reacted differently. Instead the press concentrated on how the surviving gunman was "denied" immediate medical attention before he succumbed to his wounds. Four cops who were involved in that shoot-out committed suicide in the ensuing years. If you were to ask any reporter/journalist if machineguns were legal in the U.S., they would reply with a resounding, "Of course not." They are completely oblivious to the legality of Class III weapons. That may be a good thing.
Posted 24 January 2004 - 09:57 AM
Maybe I'm worng, but it seems to me then, that the general consesus regarding anyone overseas trying to sell a US/BATF-defined MG that could possibly make their way into the US is to shut them down completely....prevent them from selling what may be a lawful item in their own country by denying them access to market venues, inform Customs/US Dept. State, and both the seller and any potential buyers. We should just stick our heads in the sand and only speak with those "in the know."
Why isn't there this sort of 2A outcry about non-C3 guns and crime among the 2A community? Let's get real for a minute here. The press, in general, has no idea about the difference betweeen an AR15 and an M16, a .22 Rohm and a .357 Python, or even the OED definition of an "arsenal." To them, all guns are evil, and what sells better than sensationalisitc stories playing on the fears and horrors of a few vocal people? Do as you please, make your judgements, but don't condemn me because I choose not to be a quisling.
Knowledge is power, and we shouldn't try hiding our lamp under the proverbial bushel, for fear that our "dirty little 2A secret" will get out to the general public. Let the bad guys get in trouble, and let's speak out publicly about those who get caught and let the general public know that those who make the news are the few bad apples and representative of the majority of law-abiding exercisers of our Second Amendment right. Why let the lying liberal media control the flow of information by keeping a low profile?
Posted 24 January 2004 - 01:13 PM
Of course the media holds the biggest megaphone when it comes to the gun issue. But sometimes a Sean Hannity, or an Ann Coulter, gets their views across the airwaves. The problem is that when the media goes looking for a spokesperson from the pro gun owners, they invariably come up with some yahoo dressed in camouflage, (as if Sarah Brady hand picked the guy), whose perception will distort the discussion before any ideas are exchanged.
Posted 24 January 2004 - 04:36 PM
Let the dumb bastards buy it and go to prison!
How do you know the guy selling on the other end is not a fed?
Maybe he is TRYING to set up innocent people and catching them!
Just be smart DO NOT buy it!
IMA has parts sets that are just like those guns, ANY ONE can make a LEGAL display gun like he is selling it as, and Dougs receivers are better built any how!
Posted 24 January 2004 - 05:20 PM
If the public doesn't like what we are up to, our hobby (our "gun community") could go away.
Everyone has to realize that we are only a couple penstrokes away from losing our toys. There are some who cry "it'll never happen". Many said the same thing about the "assault weapon" ban, and look what we are up against now.
It only takes the actions of a few stupid, irresponsible individuals to ruin this hobby we love so much.
And you have to look at the media also. Think they are on our side?? Guess again, friends! They're not referred to as the "liberal media" for 'nuthin!!!
So for those of you who are upset that this clown is sending live receivers into our country, I applaud you. I'm pissed also and someone needs to stop this fool. It's not his "community" that he will bring ruin to. it's ours, and we need to defend it.
And for those who don't care and say "let them do it and get arrested....it'll serve 'em right", think about their actions "serving us ALL right". Because that IS HOW our system works, like it or not.
If you see a "wrong" you need to act responsibly to "right" it.
Let's be a responsible community, and we will be a community for a LONNNNGGGG time!!
just my .02 worth......
Posted 24 January 2004 - 06:42 PM
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Posted 25 January 2004 - 02:10 PM
Nice to see that a cross-section, if not all, viewpoints are expressed herein. I guess that shows that even though we share at least a common interest in the Thompson submachine gun we are really a diverse group.
In this case, last I looked the reserve had not yet been met so, as Rick Springfield said, "The point is probably moot."
Posted 25 January 2004 - 02:26 PM
We recently had the anti gun lobby wanting registration for all rifles and shotguns. After thousands of submissions from a combined hunting shooting collecting lobby the powers have started to back down.
Dont let anything damage your reputation as good honest collectors and shooters.
Thant my two pennys worth.