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#21 Norm

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Posted 25 January 2004 - 02:58 PM

Only the ignorant or a fool would buy one of these imported "dewats!"

I try to inform the ignorant. huh.gif

I don't give a s#!t about the fool! blink.gif

It is very hard to flush an illegal SMG down the toilet when the BATFE is pounding on the door! sad.gif

Just my $.02 worth. wink.gif

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Posted 25 January 2004 - 02:59 PM

Does the Home Depot even sell such a Toilet? laugh.gif
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Posted 25 January 2004 - 03:12 PM

YES.

It is called an acetylene torch!

DON'T BUY ONE OF THESE IMPORTED PRISON SENTENCES!

You'll be sorrrrry! blink.gif

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Posted 25 January 2004 - 03:24 PM

HOW TRUE!!!!!

If people WANT to be a prison bitch this is the EASIEST way to become one without doing something REALLY bad!!!

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Posted 25 January 2004 - 04:38 PM

To all: The Rules of Machinegun Buying Etiquette! (Ignor them at your peril!)

1.) Take care of yourself first. cool.gif

2.)caveat emptor-let the buyer beware. It is a warning as old as the ages. You are responsible, as the buyer, to do due diligence, before making a purchase. biggrin.gif cool.gif

3.) If you ignored rules one and two, prepare for a long stay at Club Fed. ohmy.gif blink.gif sad.gif unsure.gif mad.gif

4.) If you are willing to stick your neck out for the sake of the SMG/MG community, or an individual, be sure to, 'first do no harm'. smile.gif biggrin.gif

P.S. True Story: A couple of nights ago a 63 year old local gentleman decided to go snowmobiling alone. He then plunged into a pond, even though it was about 10 degrees F outside. He was an experienced snowmobiler. It turned out to be a recovery mission. So, now, should we outlaw snowmobiles or ponds, because some individuals are irresponsible?
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Posted 25 January 2004 - 09:50 PM

Glad I'm wearing my Nomex undies!
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Posted 25 January 2004 - 10:15 PM

ltcboy,
Trolling here and trying to start a fire, then sitting back and tossing gas on once in awhile gives me a good idea as to the type of person we're dealing with. You certainly have a right to your opinion, but when you start namecalling and spewing forth high levels of vile venom toward good folks who just might not disagree with your selfish kid opinions, you have crossed the line from denizen to troll.
And don't you dare tell me to "get a life" . You know absolutely NOTHING about me, except that I feel a certain responsibility as a gun owner and chose to share that with you and others here. Your response is that of a spoiled little boy.....totally celf-centered and very selfishly stated.

We don't get down on folks for their hobbies, we all try and enjoy ours responsibly and get along on these wonderful boards that Frank and Nick have generously provided for our use, and mediated by guys like Chris, who tries to keep it clean. People need to give a little bit back to some of the things they love to ensure they will be around for others to enjoy.
If you pass me on the freeway (and that wouldn't be likely the way I drive!!), its not likely I'd turn you in. Nor am I one who jams the left lane playing traffic cop. If you want to speed, that's your business, as long as you can do it without endangering my driving priveleges. When I see someone selling illegal items that could have an impact on one of my hobbies, you can bet that I will take an active interest in setting things right. I have no desire to play Lawman here, but I feel someone has to....

Maybe some here see this as none of their business, but I don't see them reacting to simple logic like I see you doing......flaming away as you are.

I've been hanging around these boards for years and most folks who act like you aren't welcome and don't usually stick around long.
Do us all a favor and be gone. I don't welcome your type and I don't believe other good members of these boards do either. mad.gif

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Posted 25 January 2004 - 11:16 PM

Lctboy (emphasis on the 'boy'):
I wholeheartedly agree with John and others on this issue. IMHO, you've taken careful aim and peed all over your shoes on this one, son. I, like so many others here, want to help keep this an informative, intelligent, and well thought out forum that keeps the history of our hobby alive and well, which includes exercising it within the limits of the law and not beyond!

What would "The Old Man" (General John T. Thompson) say if he could read some of the flaming here, the forum which is dedicated to his invention? He had enough heartbreak in the 1920's regarding the action that went on 25 miles away from my house in Chicagoland, plus many more in his lifetime.

Responsibility is just what it reads: A responsibility. I won't beat that one to a pulp; it's been explained quite eloquently here by the forum members. Thanks, guys.

So, best to move on and out, ltcboy. I've fired many (people with) attitudes like yours. No regrets on my part.


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Posted 26 January 2004 - 12:28 AM

Hawksnest-- If somebody breaks into my house, I shoot them and they go bye bye in a pine box. If I am not home, my dog Clancy will tear them a new ass.

Lionheart-- As far as my head in my ass-- I would be thrilled if I could perform such a feat! I didnt realize that you were so emotional. I would swear you are a female. As far as your comment on the PPSH, I really dont know what your talking about or what point your trying to make. SO to respond to your little assholish comments, realizing that your so brave sitting on your computer, sitting there typing away in your boxers, pulling your pud, typing out insults from within the privacy the internet allows you to hide behind. But all I can say to you is... say it to me personally in my face. If you can afford a Thompson, you have money to afford a plane ticket to Chicago. Fly out and I meet you at the airport and personally greet you so I can hear you tell me how far I have my head in my ass. We will then see how strong your opinions are then.


John-- Get a life.

Ron Mills-- I agree with you 100% about perserving this hobby within the law. I dont dispute that and I hope you beleive this. However, what somebody is selling on an auction, let alone from a foreign country, is your business only if you bid on it. It is nobodys business but the buyer and the seller. If the buyer is breaking the law----its his ass---not mine, not yours, not Lionhearts, not Johns or anybody elses on this forum. Its the buyers ass. All I can say to you guys who want to flame me is, who the fuq died and left you in command? Nobody, and I will stick to my guns on this. The analogy about somebody breaking into my house and stealing my weapons is stupid and dumb. You cannot compare it. That is a crime committed against another person. When the idiot who buys the TSMG illegally and gets it in his hands, he is not committing a crime against another person. Yes he is still committing a crime be having an illegal machine gun, but the only person that will suffer is him --if he gets caught.
By the way Ron-- as far as firing me-- you wouldnt be able to afford me in the first place.

So to all you women who hate me now and want to flame and throw out insults-- thats fine. Whether you like it or not, or disagree with my opinion, you still are budding you nose in somebody elses business because your afraid that whomever gets their hands on an illegal machine gun is gonna jeapordize your hobby and your ownership. As I said before-get a life and get real. There have been many people arrested for illicit use of automatic weapons in the past. There will be more in the future. You will still be able to own your Thompson. DO you really think in sound mind, as an American, that the Feds will outlaw legal ownership of automatic weapons and come to your house to get them? You can think it will happen all day long and if you do, your heads in the clouds. On a local level yes, federal never. As far as policing what people are buying on the internet let Ebay, Gunbroker, Auction Arms, and other authorities worry about it. Thats what they get paid for. You dont.

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Posted 26 January 2004 - 12:45 AM

Here is what will happen, if someone less then an upstanding citizen gets caught importing this stuff the media probably would have a field day saying "See what kind of people buy and use these weapons" In this hobby one bad apple CAN ruin the bunch.. IMO it benefits EVERYONE involved to help the uninformed people stay out of Club Fed. It may be an all inclusive Club but it sure ain't a day at the beach!! blink.gif So in a round about way it is YOUR ass!
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Posted 26 January 2004 - 01:18 AM

Exactly right Nick! ohmy.gif blink.gif cool.gif Mike, yes, I do think it is a distinct possibility that the Feds could outlaw automatic weapons and come to each previously legal owners' house and confiscate said weapons. Unfortunately, the Federal Government of the United States of America has already begun the process of regulating automatic weapons out of existence. Don't believe me! Check it out for yourself: 1.) The 1934 NFA Act, which regulates the sale of automatic weapons to this day, by imposing a $200 transfer tax. This is the first regulation of automatic weapons and one of the first compromises of the Second Amendment. 2.) The 1968 Crime Law, which further regulated firearms at the Federal level. Among other things, all automatic weapons had to be registered, in order to be considered legal, for the first time in our nation's history. 3.) The 1986 Federal Law Enforcement Protection Act, made it illegal to manufacture new machineguns, for civilians only. It also forbid importation of any, and all, parts for machineguns, for civilian owned guns only. This, in effect, says, "machineguns for police and government military forces are good, but machineguns for civilians (ordinary citizens) are bad"! blink.gif ohmy.gif And who made this value judgement? Your Senators and Representatives in the Federal Government. I believe President Reagan signed this into law, as his veto would have been overridden anyway. 4.) The 1994 Crime Bill, which outlawed certain 'assault weapons' and large capacity (over ten rounds) magazines, again, to apply to civilians only! blink.gif ohmy.gif mad.gif Due to past precedent, the Feds could very easily wake up some sunny morning and quite legally take away your right to own a machinegun completely. And yes, they would come to your door to take them away. Don't forget about Randy Weaver losing his wife, child and dog, all because the Feds determined he was such an incredible danger to the public, all by himself, on that mountain top (Ruby Ridge). This was so because, after repeated attempts by the Feds to entrap Mr. Weaver into making and selling a sawed-off shotgun, he finally gave in, due to financial need. Some would argue that they (the Feds) are a fraction of a vote away from doing so already. All of this, inspite of the fact that all of these laws totally contradict the Second Amendment to The United States Constitution. blink.gif ohmy.gif mad.gif cool.gif Regards, Walter
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Posted 26 January 2004 - 12:12 PM

BOY, you made a post a few months back trying to unload a Gun Safe. In that photo you posted, there was a box next to the safe. The VERY same box that the DEWAT PPSH Guns are being shipped in from Russia. I even made the same comment to you then. How do you like your PPSH? You NEVER responded. Of course you didn't. I can't beleive that you were SO stupid in having that included in your pic! Like I said, you really must have your head jammed up into your ass so far, you can't seem to understand anything anyone of us have said here. As far as my "Asshole Comments", they were written to try to make you understand the seriousness of the situation. Nor, do I consider myself being an over emotional individual. It is obvious that we are dealing with a child. You don't seem to even have an understanding of the subject matter. As far as meeting you in Chicago? I wouldn't want to get that close to stupid.
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Posted 26 January 2004 - 12:55 PM

You posted a Gun Safe for sale on this Forum back on November 14Th, 2003. You had a link to your auction on Gun Broker. What was it again that you didn't know what I was talking about? http://www.gunbroker...p?Item=13606310
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Posted 26 January 2004 - 01:51 PM

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Posted 26 January 2004 - 02:00 PM

Lionhart put one in the "x" ring when he remembered Boy had a PPSH box in the gun safe for sale photo. Boy used a different name in the ad. I looked up Boy's old MGB posts and discovered the racial slur he made because we didn't wish him a happy birthday.
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Posted 26 January 2004 - 02:09 PM

Yeah, I remember. "I must be black--today is my birthday and I didn't get any happy wishes from anybody sad.gif wink.gif"
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Posted 26 January 2004 - 02:32 PM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LIONHART!!!

and many, MANY more!!!

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Posted 26 January 2004 - 02:36 PM

John, THANKS! As it so happens, my birthday is on the 23Rd of Feb. laugh.gif
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Posted 26 January 2004 - 04:38 PM

Lionheart--

As far as you making your accusations and comments about me owning an illegal PPSH because you saw a box next to a safe--you can blow it out your ass. Ever hear of people buying parts kits Einstien? The box came with a parts kit that I bought last year at a gunshow dipsh it. So take your wannabe Dick Tracy mentality and stick it . Who's got their head in their ass now Mr. Knowitall?

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Posted 26 January 2004 - 04:49 PM

Boy, your FULL OF SHIT! NO parts kits are being sold in a highly decorated box like that. There was a seller from Russia who advertised a DEWAT M1 Thompson that came boxed IDENTICAL to the one in your Photo on Gunsamerica a few months back. Only it had an M1 on it. It's interesting that you didn't respond to your older post when I made the exact same remark! Like I said. Sooner or later your going to end up in Prison, and I do hope that when you do, you'll end up being someones Bitch! So be careful if you happen to drop the soap! And you also remarked here, that you didn't know what I was talking about in reference to a PPSH! Who's the dumbass now?
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