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#1 mnshooter

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 12:59 PM

Gunbroker 225991863 is a 1928A1, complete except for two saw cuts through the receiver.
Location listed as Eugene, Oregon. Just doesn't seem possible to have it this complete.
Anyone?
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#2 RoscoeTurner

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 01:25 PM

Would you buy this?


Nope, zero interest in cut and paste Thompsons.
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Posted 26 April 2011 - 01:45 PM

Too much for a wall hanger, at least for me.
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Posted 26 April 2011 - 05:07 PM

I think it should have been cut with a torch displacing at least 1/4 inch material at the cuts per ATF rules ". A proper method of destroying this firearm is to cut the receiver into separate pieces as follows. All cutting must be done with a cutting torch having a tip of sufficient size to displace at least 1/4 inch of material at each location. Cutting by means of a bandsaw or cut-off wheel does not ensure destruction."

I would run like the wind from this one.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 05:12 PM

QUOTE (Mark Michael @ Apr 26 2011, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it should have been cut with a torch displacing at least 1/4 inch material at the cuts per ATF rules ". A proper method of destroying this firearm is to cut the receiver into separate pieces as follows. All cutting must be done with a cutting torch having a tip of sufficient size to displace at least 1/4 inch of material at each location. Cutting by means of a bandsaw or cut-off wheel does not ensure destruction."

I would run like the wind from this one.



I might depend on when it was cut. Back in the day they could bandsaw cut receivers but at some point the ATF said torch cut and remove 1/4" so you can't duct tape it back together.
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#6 TSMGguy

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 08:26 PM

This item has been offered before. It has not been making the reserve.

I've bought from this seller. He's the very soul of honesty and intregrity.

Edited by TSMGguy, 28 April 2011 - 09:51 AM.

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#7 Z3BigDaddy

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 08:48 PM

Sure I would buy it!
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Posted 26 April 2011 - 09:11 PM

I think it would be ok to buy. The risk was most likely taken just to get it in the country. I've seen items from the seller and he seems like a good guy.

The receiver clearly has the european deactivation stamp on the center portion of the receiver so I would have to guess the seller has a connection over there who will cut the receiver and ship. At one point there was a seller in Poland selling the same guns and said he would ship to the US as long as he cut the receiver.

My .02.

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 02:38 PM

I'd buy it one piece at a time.... (song to a familiar tune)...
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 11:15 PM

I got it one piece at a time,
and I never crossed over the line,
until the atf came into my town.

They said I couldn't own every piece,
unless I had a police release,
and a manufacturer's license paper too...


Sing it Johnny,


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Posted 28 April 2011 - 06:17 AM

Whoa folks. Just because it complied with demil requirements when it was cut doesn't mean it's OK to have today. Fact is those standards have changed, and the reason they have changed is because these saw cuts were too easy to superglue together. If you buy a kit like this, and ATF finds reason to make trouble for you, they are going to say this is a machinegun EVEN if it complied with a past version of the demil requirements. That's because the law is clear: the frame of a machinegun is a machinegun, and a collection of parts that can be assembled to make a machinegun is a machinegun.
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 06:33 AM

QUOTE (mnshooter @ Apr 27 2011, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I got it one piece at a time,
and I never crossed over the line,
until the atf came into my town.

They said I couldn't own every piece,
unless I had a police release,
and a manufacturer's license paper too...


Sing it Johnny,




mnshooter, you make me smile....I'd like to hear the whole version with your updated lyrics. I only thought of the first line. Maybe we could sing it at the nest tata show..
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#13 mnshooter

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 07:57 AM

QUOTE (deerslayer @ Apr 28 2011, 06:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mnshooter @ Apr 27 2011, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


I got it one piece at a time,
and I never crossed over the line,
until the atf came into my town.

They said I couldn't own every piece,
unless I had a police release,
and a manufacturer's license paper too...


Sing it Johnny,




mnshooter, you make me smile....I'd like to hear the whole version with your updated lyrics. I only thought of the first line. Maybe we could sing it at the nest tata show..


Thanks,
Just made those up, inspired by your suggestion. I'll have to get some more verses. I really want to attend that event.
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 11:57 AM

Well , if the kit was imported into this country on a certain date and was done cut as BATF wanted it , it's a done deal , is it not ? I have never heard of them requiring the cuts be updated on the old imports , just the ones current to that law . This kit was sold , BTW , and it was in the US .
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 12:04 PM

You could even store your spare welding rods in the same box.
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 10:03 PM

This is a european de-activated tommy. Over there, they don't have to cut the upper receiver, but they do demill the bolt, barrel, and several other parts. I'v seen european dealers trying to sell them on GB, looks like they succeeded. I guess they didn't tell the excited buyer they also cut the receiver if it sells to the USA.
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 11:01 AM

Well , one , the pictures show it's already cut , so I don't see where that's a problem unless you believe the pics are from the future , and two , it is in Eugene , OR . , which I don't think is a part of Europe last I looked. Are you saying you have knowlege that this IS in Europe right now and will be shipped here now , or are you just saying that at one time it WAS in Europe ? This info can completely change the legality of the piece.
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE (emmagee1917 @ Apr 29 2011, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well , one , the pictures show it's already cut , so I don't see where that's a problem unless you believe the pics are from the future , and two , it is in Eugene , OR . , which I don't think is a part of Europe last I looked. Are you saying you have knowledge that this IS in Europe right now and will be shipped here now , or are you just saying that at one time it WAS in Europe ? This info can completely change the legality of the piece.
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Obviously you have never been to Eugene.. rolleyes.gif

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#19 emmagee1917

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 06:40 PM

Ummmm.....no I haven't been. huh.gif . Sounds like a story there. What's up ? Wait a sec....maybe I don't wanna know unsure.gif .
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 09:44 AM

QUOTE (emmagee1917 @ Apr 29 2011, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ummmm.....no I haven't been. huh.gif . Sounds like a story there. What's up ? Wait a sec....maybe I don't wanna know unsure.gif .
Chris


Eugene is the illegitimate love child of Seattle and San Fran....

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