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#1 LIONHART

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Posted 27 January 2004 - 05:20 PM

Just received this alert through http://www.awbansunset.com



S.659, the bill that limits junk lawsuits against the firearm industry, will be coming to the floor of the Senate in a month or so. It is almost a certainty that Sen. Feinstein & Co. will attempt to amend the bill with a renewal of the so-called "assault weapons" ban. While it is likely that this "poison pill" amendment, if passed, will not make it through the House/Senate conference committee nor survive a final vote in the House (potentially killing the junk lawsuit bill), we have an opportunity to STOP the ban renewal in the Senate.

A vote on this issue in the Senate would be very close, but could go either way. We need every single vote we can get. Please take just a moment to call both of your Senators, urging them to oppose S.1034 (the standalone bill that renews and slightly expands the 1994 "Assault Weapons" Ban) or any attempt to amend a ban renewal to S.659, the junk lawsuit preemption bill. Even if one or both of your Senators are known to be anti-gun, it doesn't hurt to remind them of how unpopular this issue is.

You can quickly locate your Senators' phone numbers here:

http://www.senate.go...enators_cfm.cfm

Defeating a ban renewal in the Senate, which is acknowledged as not being nearly as pro-gun as the House, would be an undeniably huge victory for us. Do your part to ensure we win this opening skirmish in the battle to keep the 1994 Clinton semi-auto ban from being renewed. Call your Senators NOW (and encourage your friends to do so too).

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Posted 27 January 2004 - 06:41 PM

Thanks for keeping us up on this Devlin.
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#3 Mario Scarpino

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Posted 27 January 2004 - 08:06 PM

Lionhart,

Thanks for the scoop. I will be contacting my senators. I may remind them every other week or so just so they get the message. EVERYBODY ELSE, PLEASE DO THE SAME!!!!We have to start winning this battle now. Get all your friend involved!!

Just wanted all of you to know that at this point I have not heard anything from Sean Hannity concerning the e-mail I sent him (posted here for all to see) concerning the assault weapons ban. If I ever do hear anything, I will let you know.

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Posted 27 January 2004 - 08:17 PM

Would be cool if we could catch it on C-SPAN and watch the senate debate it.
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Posted 27 January 2004 - 09:34 PM

Ya know Lionhart, It's too bad the senators that we have here (cantwell and murray) are such anti-rights freaks that they probably have their secretarys etc. delete/cutup all calls, emails, letters that are pro- firearms rights..Just to say that we (the voters) don't care how the AWB vote goes..But, it is always a very good idea to call, write and email your senators regardless of what their party affiliation and their stand on the firearms rights "issue"is...
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Posted 27 January 2004 - 10:41 PM

mp40, your Senators can't be worse than mine (Chuck Schumer and Hilary Clinton), which isn't saying much! mad.gif Well, at least Chucky is up for reelection this year. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif cool.gif Regards, Walter
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Posted 27 January 2004 - 11:34 PM

No Walter, they are not as bad, but they are just as stupid...Sadly, there is no way to un-seat Chucky boy I think. But, still I say: depose the dictator! It never hurts to dream though.
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 01:54 AM

I hope that we can win this.
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 02:39 AM

Hi 427 sohc, welcome to the boards! yes, I also hope that we can truly "win" this one! The problem is though, how do we keep "them" from doing this again next time! Fighting gun-control is a never ending struggle! By the way, do you have a Ford Single Overhead Cam 427? Ah, 660 HP out of the crate!
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 02:44 AM

I think we can win this, if we all stick together and vote consistently to remove people from political office, in this nation, who do not respect the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution! biggrin.gif cool.gif Write to your local, State, and Federal representatives, letting them know how you feel about our Second Amendment being trampled on by self-serving politicians. Tell them of the consequences of not properly representing the interests of the American people. I am not normally a one issue voter, but I believe the elections of 2004 will be critical to the Second Amendment issue and conservative causes generally. Remember, without the Second Amendment, all the other freedoms and rights that we Americans cherish are in jeopardy. Freedom of speech and religion (conscience) come immediately to mind. Why else would Adolf Hitler have abolished gun rights (for civilians), only two years after coming to power? Our liberals want to control every aspect of our lives, just as the Nazis wanted to! blink.gif Also, liberals are against life (pro abortion), which comes as no surprise. Without life and liberty, how, pray tell, are people to even hope for a 'pursuit of happiness'! Vote the immoral liberals out of office this year!! Let's change America for the better. biggrin.gif Regards, Walter

P.S. The choice should be simple and straightforward: Freedom vs. Tyranny!
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 03:02 AM

True Walter, we must band together on this issue! There are many people out there that don't believe that elected officials will ever move to collect our firearms when the time comes. Let's not let it ever get to the point that we have to use our Thompsons,MP40's etc for anything but collecting, plinking etc.....Also, many people out there that believe that they don't need to act because they just don't care because they "wont be affected" because they don't own a bad gun! The liberals don't care that you are an up-standing person, with a life, they just know that you are an impediment to their carefully laid plans for a gun-free utopia..IF you have an bolt action rifle with a scope they call it a super-accurate sniper rifle! A single shot .22? who knows? to them, It's still just a killing device..
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 08:54 AM

Walter, my senators are Mikulski and Sarbanes, so I am very close to you in terms of terrible representation in the Senate.
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 09:34 AM

Delvin,
Great idea to post that email. I was thinking to do it also, contact info and correct bill numbers all laid out!
Let's get working guys!
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 12:42 PM

Everyone, I feel that it's my duty to keep all of us posted on this very important issue. We ALL must do our part to ensure our freedoms from those who wish to take them away! MP40, within the last couple of months I have written numerous letters to both Cantwell and Murray, and I hope others in our State have also. Let's all get involved NOW, and beat the Anti-Gun crowd and their agenda! It's a battle that NONE of us can afford to lose.

Edited by LIONHART, 28 January 2004 - 01:04 PM.

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Posted 28 January 2004 - 05:31 PM

mp40,thanks for the welcome!Yes I am one of the lucky people that has a 427sohc engine. Its in a 1995 F-150 lightning.And its dynoed at 770 @ the rear wheels.No problem passing anything but the gas pump. lol.
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 08:47 PM

I've written both of mine. Even told them to stop by and lets have lunch sometime! Both are good old boys from Indiana.We'll see what happens.
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 10:41 PM

I agree. Campaign Finance reform has put limits on when we can make public statements, (1st Amendment) and the AWB is attacking the 2nd. Next could be arrest w/o due process (4th) If Diane Feinstein and co have their way, we could ALL be locked up for owning what we bought legally! Isn't that called an Ex-Post Facto Law?

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Posted 28 January 2004 - 11:28 PM

I would like to add this: GUN NEWS

And this: Move to Off Topic.

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#19 LIONHART

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Posted 28 January 2004 - 11:46 PM

John Jr. I decided to post this topic here in fear that many wouldn't have seen it elsewhere. This is an all to important subject to go unnoticed by those who frequent this page.
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Posted 29 January 2004 - 08:47 AM

I agree with Lionhart. This subject, while political, does impact the gun owning public, and that would include every member of this board. After all, this is www.machinegunbooks.com, not some site about Teddy Bears. The gun issue (Second Amendment) is extremely political. Guns and politics/ government can not be separated. If you care about your gun collection, you should care about the Second Amendment and how it is being dismantled by the liberals. Are we going to sit comfortably on our duffs, or are we going to do something about it!! blink.gif mad.gif cool.gif Regards, Walter

P.S. What better place could there be to organize to defeat gun-hating politicians and laws, than on a site dedicated to gun owners and their toys. If you don't value your toys (guns), then maybe you are right, we should eliminate politics from gun collecting discussion boards. Then the liberals can go on and turn us into another place like Australia or England, where gun owning is very limited. I know we would all feel a lot safer when we can't own guns, but izzy the terrorist, rufus the drug dealer, and john the rapist can!!! ohmy.gif
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