billatlanta Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Three "experts" test the guns.Watch and see for yourself, link: " Schmeisser vs. Thompson vs. Grease Gun -- WW2 Submachine Gun Shootoff " Well, I guess that finally puts the arguement to rest about which is mosteffective, easiest to control, etc. "best." Haven't had many heated debates here lately, thought I'd stir the pot. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 At least it is not a bunch of 16 year old mall ninjas becoming instant experts from watching some dumbing down reality show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksnest Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Let me guess. The grease gun was about to be issued to replace the Thompson and the brass (in the rear with the gear) needed to convince the doggies that the grease gun was the superior weapon and they had nothing to fear from the MP40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Let me guess. The grease gun was about to be issued to replace the Thompson and the brass (in the rear with the gear) needed to convince the doggies that the grease gun was the superior weapon and they had nothing to fear from the MP40. hawksnest, I agree...Some propaganda going on in the video. I know which one would win in the steel shoot in August every time. (Actually, I think a Reising might do even better...) David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Yea...an MP-40 with a 32 round mag, a Grease Gun with a 30 rd. magand a Thompson with a 20-rd mag. Thats about as fair as it gets! Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billatlanta Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Bob, each had 20 rounds. bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Let me guess. The grease gun was about to be issued to replace the Thompson and the brass (in the rear with the gear) needed to convince the doggies that the grease gun was the superior weapon and they had nothing to fear from the MP40. hawksnest, I agree...Some propaganda going on in the video. I know which one would win in the steel shoot in August every time. (Actually, I think a Reising might do even better...) David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Dave ,I don't mean to be argumentative, but at the last Tracie Hill shoot, that I attended, I participated in an informal match on the paper silhouette phase. I shot the M3, T. James shot my Reising, B Segal shot the TSMG, and I forgot who shot my M1 carbine, but I turned in a 98 with the Grease Gun, which tied with Charlie for second place score in the regular match. I believe my score was a TATA record with the M3 which still stands today and of course beat the other shooters.Since Hill doesn't believe in posting scores, few realized the match took place.The M3 might look like junk, but never sell its performance short.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I was issued the M-3 as a tanker in the Army. Found it to be very controllable, if very slow firing. I'm sure the controllability had to do with the rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Oops - I did not have the sound on when I viewed the video.... Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Jim C,I don't think your being argumentative because David is speaking about the afternoon steel shoot and you are talking about the morning paper shoot. There is no doubt in my mind a Thompson would beat an M3 Grease Gun everytime in the steel shoot. Why don't you bring your M3 back to the TATA Show & Shoot this year and we will give it try on the steel. I bet Rangemaster Phil Askew can find a little time for this informal match And David can bring his Reising to challange the winner!!! Maybe we can even get reconbob to the show and shoot this year. All good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james m Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Let me ask a rhetorical question here:If you had a chance to "get it on" with Hillary Clinton or Dimi Moore which would you choose??Jim Edited February 5, 2012 by james m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Let me ask a rhetorical question here:If you had a chance to "get it on" with Hillary Clinton or Dimi Moore which would you choose??Jim Demi would be more likely to own a Thompson. I don't think HC has an interest in anyone with a gun (apologies to Leon Uris). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 jim c 351, Yes, I agree that the M3 would do fine in the paper match, where cyclic rate is no issue. In the steel match, I believe anyone using an M3 would have little chance of winning against a Thompson, or a Reising. I speculate that the Reising could prevail because of its high cyclic rate and closed bolt operation. A Thompson with 21 internals against a Reising is probably the most even match. David Albertdalbert@sturmgewehr.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Sergeant Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Sounds like a grudge match brewing. I'll bring my MP40 to add a European flavor to the mix, as long as the plates aren't set too strong for the lowly 9mm. I do agree with David, a 21 internal Thompson and a Reising would be a pretty fair match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) cancelled Edited February 5, 2012 by jim c 351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hammer Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I own and shoot all three of these weapons. Each has it's own charactoristics and you must control them all differently. All I know is that in a real warfare confrontation, I would choose the Thompson 100% of the time! I find the greaser too slow, and that it actually throws off my accuracy... go figure. Mike Hammer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndArmored Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Perforating paper is plenty pleasing. But that won’t help if the weapons don’t work under battlefield conditions. Dad served from 1944 - 46. He said the Thompson always worked and the Grease Gun never worked. Admittedly the superlatives were not meant literally, and it's just one soldier's observation. But 20 years later, ask the guys in the jungle with their newly-adopted M16's how valuable is an accurate, hard-hitting, fast-shooting weapon that continuously malfunctions when you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I love that video, and the informative posting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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