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#1 full auto 45

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Posted 26 July 2003 - 03:08 PM

Ok, so I have way too much time on my hands this week-end. I have posted some Thumbnail pictures on my site to start with. Others will be popping up soon along with the Theodore Eickhoff papers. biggrin.gif
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#2 Walter63a

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Posted 26 July 2003 - 03:52 PM

Mike, thanks for sharing, I think. biggrin.gif You are making all of us, who can't legally owm FA, extremely jealous. ohmy.gif It's great to see you sharing 'the fever' with family and friends. rolleyes.gif Regards, Walter

P.S. I got a chance to see you shoot Brickyard's MP40. Thanks to both of you. It sure has a nice, healthy sound cool.gif
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Posted 26 July 2003 - 04:08 PM

Hey Mike,

Nice pictures. Can't wait to see it in person at the shoot next month. Maybe if I beg, you'll even let me shoot at the free shoot:-)
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Posted 26 July 2003 - 04:59 PM

Mike, very nice!
Wish I had one just like it!!!
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Posted 26 July 2003 - 06:43 PM

This was originally an M1 A1, but when it was rebuilt at Mount Rainier they placed an M1 slam fire bolt in it. Is that the type bolt currently? It is strange that both GEG and F.J.A . proof initials are on a Bridegeport TSMG when F.J.A.'s intials usually only turn up on Savage manufactured M1, M1A1's. Does it have a "U.S. Property" stamp on top of the receiver? Just wondering because of the indication marks of a once present reinforcing grip band.
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Posted 26 July 2003 - 07:13 PM

Arthur, It does not have US Property stamped on it that I see. The bolt is the M1, with the floating firing pin. The M1A1 has the slam fire type bolt. I read that after the war alot were sold to PD's and they would put the bolt with the firing pins and springs back in and x out the A1 because it was safer for the cops to use it that way. It was sold to the B&O Railroad Police after the war and remained there until it went to the PD I bought it from. The Chief of the B&O PD went to the PD in WV and took it with him in 65-66. They have had it ever since. I'm still checking to see what year it was made. The # is 5116xx if anybody has a clue. I think if I can remember it should be around '43?
Oh. There is a "H" stamped on the right side of the lower by the front of the buttstock area on the metal. And all levers are pin type.
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#7 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 26 July 2003 - 08:37 PM

Right. The M1 has the floating pin, while the M1A1 is slam fire. Wow!..It still amazes me how unoriginal and confusing the military nomenclature became when they stopped using (the 1928 TSMG being the swan song for dates in the model name of military adopted arms) the original date of manufacture as part of the offical weapon designation. I mean M1 is a Garand, a Carbine, a Thompson, a Bazooka, and an Abrahms Tank. The M2 is a select fire Carbine and a .50 Browning Ma Deuce. The M3 is a Grease Gun and a half track. M60 is a machine gun and a Patton Tank. Ahhhhhh!!!!

Is there any B&O PD markings on wood or receiver? I guess you would have mentiioned it if there was.

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Posted 26 July 2003 - 09:00 PM

Great picture!
Each time I try to get a nice close-up like that, the image gets blurred or the flash whites out the picture.
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Posted 26 July 2003 - 10:11 PM

QUOTE (Arthur Fliegenheimer @ Jul 26 2003, 08:37 PM)
Right. The M1 has the floating pin, while the M1A1 is slam fire. Wow!..It still amazes me how unoriginal and confusing the military nomenclature became when they stopped using (the 1928 TSMG being the swan song for dates in the model name of military adopted arms) the original date of manufacture as part of the offical weapon designation. I mean M1 is a Garand, a Carbine, a Thompson, a Bazooka, and an Abrahms Tank. The M2 is a select fire Carbine and a .50 Browning Ma Deuce. The M3 is a Grease Gun and a half track. M60 is a machine gun and a Patton Tank. Ahhhhhh!!!!

Is there any B&O PD markings on wood or receiver? I guess you would have mentiioned it if there was.

This could be just a minor footnote, but there was also the 1941 Johnson semi-automatic, that saw some limited use in the Pacific theatre. Obviously not as well known as the M1 Garand or 1903 Springfield, it is however a Military rifle that retained the year of it's introduction in the name. I'd like to pick one up, someday, but they fetch a hefty price nowadays. It was chambered for .30 '06 and used a rotary type magazine, similar in operation to say, a Ruger 10\22, but was loaded using conventional 5 round stripper clips used by the '03 Springfield.

Intreresting thing though, military designations. For instance we all know of the M1 Garand, but then they seem to have skipped a dozen models to the M-14, skipping another one to the M-16, etc. I wonder if they went through 12 prototypes????? Of course, then you got the civilian model of the M-14, THE M1A1!!! I would think people not used to it would find the whole thing confusing as hell... wink.gif
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Posted 26 July 2003 - 10:36 PM

Jim, I cut back the flash power and used a diffuser to cut back more. Got lucky with my limited photo skills. Used a Sony Mavica camera and zoomed in on the macro setting. It took about 6 or 8 tries to get it right.
No B&O Railroad markings. Did find a triangle under the pistol grip pointing to the right side of the lower.
I'd love to have a 1941 Johnson rifle! I have never seen one in person. I've got a couple of M1 Garands and a WWII Colt pistol. Maybe I'll try to find a BAR next. Naaahhh! Just Thompson's.
I did notice that the lower on this gun is not numbered but I have a lower from another parts gun and it is numbered. In the low 300,000 range. Was this normal in the first year or two of the M1A1's?

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Posted 27 July 2003 - 11:36 AM

After 1/43, serial numbers on M1A1's were stamped only on the receiver. During the rebuilding efforts, there was an attempt made to remove existing serial numbers on frames, but in those cases, one would be able to see where a serial number once existed. If there is no evidance of a number on your frame, then it coincides with the post 42 M1A1's.
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