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#1 427sohc

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Posted 31 January 2004 - 07:50 PM

does anyone have one of the new kahr m1 carbines? how are they? go to there website under new for 2004 and take a look.
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Posted 31 January 2004 - 08:58 PM

Kahr is making carbines now? Why?

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Posted 31 January 2004 - 09:07 PM

Some other surprises, too. I just visited their site, and under new products for 2004, there it is: Chauchat.
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Posted 31 January 2004 - 09:40 PM

Chris, Maybe the Moonies can take something that didn't work, and make it work. They took the Thompson from a good working, firing weapon to a turd that needs to have a RMA # with every purchase.
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Posted 01 February 2004 - 09:00 AM

They should be great at making such a FINE weapon. I bet it will work just as good as the original!
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Posted 01 February 2004 - 12:44 PM

Chris, I didn't see a Chauchat!
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Posted 01 February 2004 - 01:06 PM

That was a hoax. Sorry! I took the post off topic and shouldn't have. Has any seen the new carbines?
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Posted 01 February 2004 - 01:12 PM

Bad Bad Chris! go to your room! Ya, I would like to see their version of the M1 carbine. It might even work out of the box who knows? probably investment cast recievers etc.
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Posted 01 February 2004 - 02:18 PM

Hi Guys,
Has anyone seen Kahr's new dummy Thompson guns? Just wondering if they are made of steel or that "space age" metal.
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Posted 01 February 2004 - 02:48 PM

A Chauchat????????????? I wonder if PK ever worked on one.....Oh, just a joke...levity on this board?...tch,tch,tch....Chris go to your corner.
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Posted 01 February 2004 - 08:33 PM

Now lets think about this Phil. How can Kahr make it worse? I have had a good experience with them as far as customer service, and my Thompson worked great when it worked, so I can't fault them 100%. However, I would be far happier if they did one of two things:
1. Start making quality weapons- I'd even be willing to pay a little more!
2. Start making weapons that blow up when they jam and sell them to terrorists (patriotic duty)

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Posted 01 February 2004 - 09:14 PM

I guess I'm asking this question out of ignorance, but just what is the quality issue with Kahr Arms? My only experience with this company's products is the M1927A1 Carbine I purchased. Except for some of the ugliest wood I've ever seen on a weapon (which I replaced) the carbine has functioned flawlessly for me. Did I just get lucky? What has been some of their QC issues?

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Posted 01 February 2004 - 09:46 PM

Deputy, my 1927A1 functions flawlessly now. However, when purchased, the rear sight screws worked loose after only about 50 rounds through the gun. Also, when I first cleaned the gun, it could not be reassembled, until I took it back to the shop I purchased it from and had their gunsmith mill down the shaft part of the safety switch. It was getting caught on other internal parts, preventing reassembly! blink.gif ohmy.gif I've been told of many more serious problems associated with Kahr produced 1927A1's. I'm sure others will chime in. The point is, for $800+/gun, they should function flawlessly out of the box! sad.gif mad.gif Regards, Walter
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Posted 01 February 2004 - 10:46 PM

I see, your point. I suppose I have been fortunate then, because I have run in excess of 1000 rounds through it without any problems. The receiver was a little tight to the frame when it was new, but it has loosened up slightly so that disassembley is no problem. It now seems to have about the same tolerances of my WH M1928 SMG.

A buddy had the rear sight problem with his West Hurley 1927A1. The rear rivots came loose after prolonged use. My Kahr Arms 1927A1 has the screws.

I really don't use the 1927A1 anymore, as I mentioned it's pretty much a let down to shoot after the real thing. My first exposure to the world of the Thompson, (besides the movies) was at the Sheriff Department I originally worked for. The department had two tommy guns and a BAR that had been originally purchased by the department in the 1930's. The Ohio Ordnance semi auto SLR - BAR is my next project. Hope to commission one for construction in April. It takes 3-4 months and requires 50% down.

Thanx for the feedback.

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 08:07 AM

I have a 1927a1 and its been perfect for over 6000rounds and its a kahr,yes for the money they should have no problems,But i and alot of other peoplle have had ar-15s that cost more and have alot more problems than the thompson but all you hear people say is that is just the way some ar-15 are.And as far as the moonies owning kahr,I have heard on other boards that is just BS.im not trying to start any shit here but i have read that justin moon son of rev. moon owns kahr.no connection to the moonies cult.As for the m1 carbine,i think i may get one.Its less money than the usedup gi ones i see all over.if i buy one i will let everyone here know how it works.
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Posted 02 February 2004 - 01:33 PM

QUOTE (Deputy 89C6 @ Feb 1 2004, 10:46 PM)
The Ohio Ordnance semi auto SLR - BAR is my next project. Hope to commission one for construction in April. It takes 3-4 months and requires 50% down.

Mine should be here March or April (M1918 blued). Woo hoo!!! I'll get back to you with a range report if you like.

So, from what I'm hearing my plan to get a Kahr M1A1 SBR might not be a good idea. I guess I could get a parts kit and Richardson receiver and have someone (PK?) put it together as a SBR. Any suggestions from the peanut gallery?


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Posted 02 February 2004 - 02:52 PM

We have a lot of fun trashing the Kahr guns, but you know what? I don’t normally see any major problems with them and most of the other makers suffer from the annoying lack of detail work that Kahr does. I send NIB Winchester M70’s back for new bolts and re bed Remington's and re fit S& W’s all the time. The days of skilled workmen assembling and polishing guns in the factories passed a lot of years ago.

Now the craftsmen are independent and if you are not lucky enough to get a “good” gun out of the box, you will need to invest a bit more to make it right. Call me “sour” or “experienced”, but I don’t expect any new firearm from any maker to be perfect. Is it right? Is it just? Is it fair? Probably not, but it just seems to be a fact of life in this day and age.

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 03:27 PM

When I purchesed my NIB Walther PPKS, I could not fire it without EVERY single round jamming. TERRIBLE. Needless to say it took a bit of work to make right. However, it still doesn't function 100% with HP.
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Posted 02 February 2004 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (PK. @ Feb 2 2004, 02:52 PM)
We have a lot of fun trashing the Kahr guns, but you know what? I don’t normally see any major problems with them and most of the other makers suffer from the annoying lack of detail work that Kahr does. I send NIB Winchester M70’s back for new bolts and re bed Remington's and re fit S& W’s all the time. The days of skilled workmen assembling and polishing guns in the factories passed a lot of years ago.

Now the craftsmen are independent and if you are not lucky enough to get a “good” gun out of the box, you will need to invest a bit more to make it right. Call me “sour” or “experienced”, but I don’t expect any new firearm from any maker to be perfect. Is it right? Is it just? Is it fair? Probably not, but it just seems to be a fact of life in this day and age.

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That makes me feel better. I've built my own 1911 from the ground up out of (mostly) Wilson Combat parts so I figure I can deal with a little feed ramp polishing, sear work, or something small as long as I have decent documentation.

Been thinking more and more lately about getting my full FFL and then paying the Class III SOT so maybe I should wait for the real deal. Wife even thinks it might be a good way to make a little money!
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Posted 02 February 2004 - 10:13 PM

A Kahr M1 carbine was shown at a dealer show last week in Billings Mt.
There is better wood in a #2 pencil.

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