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#1 catnipman

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 11:26 AM

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I can see why the "winner" is being kept secret!
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 11:31 AM

That will wind up in ebay bidder "AIRMECHWWII" collection.
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 11:34 AM

Basil, this may be the real thing, there are photos of Thompsons in use in the pacific with this type of foregrip. He doesn’t say weather this one is original or re-pro, but the concept is WWII
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 11:35 AM

I had one of those and sold it to Tracie Hill. I got mine from Sarco for $9.95, as I recall. Does anybody know if those actually made it to the battlefield (for mounting, as opposed to kindling)?
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 11:37 AM

I wonder if it is an original vintage POS....HMMMMMMMM...
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 11:42 AM

Well, that's good to know, PK, but damn is that an *UGLY* mother!
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 11:53 AM

No argument there!
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:14 PM

I remember seeing a combat photo with a Thompson with this type of grip mounted.. Was in a sandpit I believe on a beach or something.. the caption pointed out the strange foregrip. I've looked in the old Thompson Newsletter archives where I thought I saw it but I can't find it..
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:31 PM

I'm a little confuZed... So is this an ugly collectible, or a bogus POS?
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:49 PM

Like Hawkeye, I have seen a WWII photo showing a grip like this. However, this particular one "appears" to be of more recent manufacture. Who knows....

No question about the "ugly" description!
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:54 PM

There is photo documentation from WWII of the Marines using an identical grip on their Thompsons in the Pacific.

Best estimates are that it was a "rigger" made item and not a standard procurement item.
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 01:55 PM

I've seen the WWII pacific picture of a marine using this grip. I have also seen a picture of Churchill holding one. Sarco had them for sale a few years back. Don't know if they have any more.
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 02:22 PM

You know, gijive, the rigger-made idea makes sense. This might be something a soldier would do if they wanted the vertical front grip and all they had were the horizontal ones. It would be easy enough to hand carve one from some local exotic wood and use wood screws to attach the two parts. Even if they had a factory-made vertical front grip, they might not have the long machine screw to attach it with.
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 03:02 PM

Sure is an UGLY design on what looks like walnut with a nice, quarter sawn grain. It looks as if somebody took the rear grip and squared off the top of it to fit the horizontal front grip.
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 06:22 PM

Here is a photo I located showing a US Marine in WWII with his dog on Bougainville with a modified Thompson. This isn't identical to the grip on Ebay, but there are pictures from later in the war of Marines with a grip identical to the one shown on Ebay. Sutton Coffman had a picture at the last TCA Show showing that grip.

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 08:17 PM

gijive, what a great WWII photo! biggrin.gif The young Marine looks a little emaciated, as many servicemen of that era did. Many were poor, jobless and half-starved, due to the Great Depression, yet they bravely fought for freedom, democracy, and a morally right cause. Well, at least, he had man's best friends with him, in the Tommy (ugly grip and all) and the beautiful German Shepherd. smile.gif rolleyes.gif cool.gif Regards,Walter
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 09:15 PM

I'll add my kudos to gijive for a great photo! Looking at that picture, I've wondered so many times how hard it must've been (and likely still is) to haul your weapon, pack, ammo, canteen, etc., and still be expected to be "on guard" all the time. Bless 'em all.

Here's another question that I've been meaning to post: Did mags, either stick or drum, ever arrive "loaded" when they reached the troops on the line, or was it just crates of ammo and empty mags? I wonder how it's done today.
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 09:45 PM

My buddy that just got back from killing off several Mudslim bastards, I asked him if his mags came loaded or empty. He told me they all came loaded. He never had to load a mag while over there. Empty a mag, pitch it in a bag grab another. At the end of day, someone picked up the mags and dropped off new ones. Got to love the Marines.
My Grandfather said all his M1 Garand mags were loaded when he got them in Italy.
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 11:05 PM

I don't know if they come loaded the first time you get them, but when my grandfather got his 45ACP, he had to hand load it. He talked about somehow loading 51 bullets in a L drum and it getting jammed and stuck in the gun. What made it better is he was being bonzi(spelling?) charged.

Edit: Now that I take a second look at that foregrip, it looks like a magazine wouldn't fit in the gun when it is. The forward pistol grip appears too far back.

Edited by Incomplete, 12 February 2004 - 11:08 PM.

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 11:54 PM

The great picture posted by gijive looks like they took a vertical foregrip, cut the top off of it and then used a vertical foregrip screw to hold both grips on. I have a verticle foregrip screw that is about 3/8 " longer than a normal vertical screw. Hmmm.
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