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#1 PK.

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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:56 PM


Many of us have participated in exhausting the recently re imported 45acp ammunition from Russia. I have used up about 10 tins and would open the boxes and transfer the loose ammo into GI cans for use. In doing so, I discovered that the ammo was packed up or down in alternating rows and when the top was cut from the box I could view half of the head stamps. Curiosity got the better of me and I started putting an example of each headstamp I encountered into a compartmented plastic cartridge box; this is what I ended up with.

EC 42
ECS 42
FA 41
FA 42
W.R.A. 45 A.C.
W.R.A.CO. 45A.C.
WCC 41
WCC 42
RA 41
RA 42
R*A 42
REM-UMC 45ACP
WESTERN 45 AUTO

It is obvious we sent anything we could get our hands on to them at the time.

Of the 10 cans (7,560 rds) I only had two misfires, both WRA headstamps.

If anyone encountered any not listed, please add to the pot.

I only regret we were not able to re import the beautiful guns that were meant to fire these cartridges. At least the ammunition got to fulfill a measure of its purpose some 60 years later.

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Posted 29 July 2003 - 09:16 PM

Pk, I picked up a can of 45's from Sportsman's Guide the other day. 600 round can, but haven't opened it up yet. I'll let you know when I do.
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 09:58 PM

PK,
Why do you suppose there are none dated after 1942? I looked through alot of this stuff and came up with the same dates and manf. you did. Chris
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Posted 29 July 2003 - 10:57 PM

Here is what I found out of several packs.

The following head stamps were chronographed and the average velocity is listed in feet per second.

W.R.A. 45 A.C. 918 FPS
WESTERN 45 AUTO 926
REM-UMC 45 ACP 973
FA 41 Not tested, only found one of these and wanted to save it.
FA 42 964
WCC 41 941
WCC 42 904
W.R.A.CO 45 A.C. 938
RA 41 929
RA 42 852

I posted this once on the old board I think.
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Posted 30 July 2003 - 02:24 AM

Ops, I'v been shootin the stuff so fast...who looks at the head stamp...after all the smoke I can't see anyway! laugh.gif
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Posted 30 July 2003 - 07:24 AM

Mike, the Russian repack stuff is gone. It was US ammo re packaged in 756 rd Russian tins and was obviously a mixture of headstamps.

I believe the ammo you will receive is all Winchester and will be packed in US GI 50 rd boxes in the standard US 600 rd tin. There was also some EC steel case available in the same packaging.

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