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#1 chitowngangster

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Posted 01 March 2004 - 07:56 PM

Any Canadian Thompson owners?I want to know what exactly does it take(besides a gazillion dollars) to own a thompson here?Laws and restrictions.
I remember there being a Canadian thompson owner on here a while back.Maybe he can answer some of my questions.

Any hepl appreciated! blink.gif
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Posted 01 March 2004 - 08:52 PM

As a start, to own an automatic weapon in Canada you must have legally been in possession of such a weapon continuously since no later than 31 December 1977. There is also a requirement to have a Firearms Acquisition Certificate. To get this a test is normally required.

Rules on storage and on carriage are also now incredibly difficult and there are restrictions on magazine sizes. I believe that drums for example have all to be modified in some way to restrict capacity.

Auto weapons can be transferred between qualified owners but not to others, even on inheritance. Prices, because of the reducing number of collectors (Youngest must now be over 46) are not high.

So, while this select group can continue to own automatic weapons the Government makes it pretty hard to enjoy them.

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Posted 01 March 2004 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE (pmlogg @ Mar 1 2004, 08:52 PM)
As a start, to own an automatic weapon in Canada you must have legally been in possession of such a weapon continuously since no later than 31 December 1977. There is also a requirement to have a Firearms Acquisition Certificate. To get this a test is normally required.

Rules on storage and on carriage are also now incredibly difficult and there are restrictions on magazine sizes. I believe that drums for example have all to be modified in some way to restrict capacity.

Auto weapons can be transferred between qualified owners but not to others, even on inheritance. Prices, because of the reducing number of collectors (Youngest must now be over 46) are not high.

So, while this select group can continue to own automatic weapons the Government makes it pretty hard to enjoy them.

Thank-you ,so in essence what your saying is i can never own one.I have never owned a weapon before and because of this cannot get one now.

What f#@*ed up country i live in.




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Posted 02 March 2004 - 01:10 AM

chitowngangster, there is a member, known as Koldt, on these forums, who lives in Calgary, Alberta. He is a Thompson owner, and seems to have no trouble shooting out there. Possibly some provinces/ territories, in the 'Great White North', have different rules and regulations. You might want to drop him an email! biggrin.gif cool.gif Best Regards, Walter
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Posted 02 March 2004 - 07:15 AM

QUOTE (Walter63a @ Mar 2 2004, 01:10 AM)
chitowngangster, there is a member, known as Koldt, on these forums, who lives in Calgary, Alberta. He is a Thompson owner, and seems to have no troubleshotting out there. Possibly some provinces/ territories, in the 'Great White North', have different rules and regulations. You might want to drop him an email! biggrin.gif cool.gif Best Regards, Walter

Thank-you Walter! wink.gif
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Posted 02 March 2004 - 09:06 AM

sad.gif I also understand, that the mg owner, upon death, the mgs in his possession are destroyed, and can-not be transfered to anyone else, thereby assurring the eventual end of FAs in private hands in Canada....(Canadian mg owners have come to the KCR shoot and told us this,of course, without their mgs).......I assume this is true........jw
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Posted 02 March 2004 - 12:24 PM

QUOTE (junglewalk @ Mar 2 2004, 09:06 AM)
sad.gif  I also understand, that the mg owner, upon death, the mgs in his possession are destroyed, and can-not be transfered to anyone else, thereby assurring the eventual end of FAs in private hands in Canada....(Canadian mg owners have come to the KCR shoot and told us this,of course, without their mgs).......I assume this is true........jw

Hello Junglewalk..

I don't know what Canadians told you that but they likely were not legitimate owners of any type of mg. They can quickly prove that they are by showing you the reverse side of their P.A.L. (possession and acquisition licence with their photo id. similar to a driver's license) where it will say either "full automatics" or "converted automatics" (or maybe both!) as weapons classes that they are grandfathered to.

I have seen many full automatics sold here in London, Ontario CANADA. I am and have been personal friends of several gun dealers who sell these firearms for the owners (or their families) on a consignment basis. Ernest Blake sold many over the years but he has since passed on about 5 years ago from liver cancer. I will not mention the others for obvious reasons but they still sell off the odd collection of FA's or CA's from time to time where the owner is either deceased or needs the money to live on.

Most full automatic or converted automatic collectors that I know keep a very low profile. I rarely talk about mine because I am usually not believed when I do and it gets very tiring having to continually "prove it." I will be 48 this April but I look much younger (or so I'm told) and that may be part of the reason.

Sometimes registered fully automatic weapons ARE destroyed if the surviving members of a deceased collector specifically request it. Otherwise if they want to keep it it has to be welded up (dewatted) or they can give it to the Forensics Lab in Toronto. (I wish Finn Neilson was a member of this board!)

If you see those Canadians again ask them to explain to you what a "bonifide collector" is and whether that term is ever used in the criminal code of Canada. Ask them about consignment sales of FA's and how that works in Canada. If they are legit they will know exactly what you are talking about.

Cheers.

Jim.

Edited by lanshoka, 02 March 2004 - 02:22 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2004 - 07:28 PM

Uh long story but I am a Colt Thompson owner in Canada.
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The Thompson is in the US, stored with my other NFA items.
I am a US citizen expat on work assignment near Toronto.
I do know the Canadian laws on auto weapon ownership is EXTREMELY restrictive as described by a couple others here.
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