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#1 Frank Iannamico

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Posted 31 March 2004 - 02:56 AM

Link to PA House Bill 2451

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To find your Senetor and State Rep., just go to http://www.legis.state.pa.us/ and in the upper right hand corner of the page type in your zip code. It will give you all the contact information for your Senetor and State Rep.

This is not good, PA is usually a gun-friendly state!

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#2 full auto 45

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Posted 31 March 2004 - 06:54 AM

That is not a good thing! Every PA citizen MUST write your Senators! If it passes there, it'll be just a matter of time before another state chimes in on this evil running across our counrty.
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Posted 31 March 2004 - 09:26 AM

Thanks for the info. I will be calling and I have passed the info to everyone I can think of to have them do the same. If that passed, I wonder how that would affect the title 2 stuff? Dan
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Posted 31 March 2004 - 04:33 PM

Frank,

That bill is a NIGHTMARE!!!! mad.gif mad.gif Is this just another anti-gun stab or does this idiot have support in the legislature? I don't live in PA, but will try to think of other friends that do and warn them. If something like this passes, the upcoming NRA show in Pittsburgh will be the last time the NRA is welcome in PA.

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Posted 31 March 2004 - 05:19 PM

That bill is f@#&ing bullsh@t!!! ohmy.gif mad.gif If that piece of filth passes, I just may have to boycott Pennsylvania. In fact, I urge all of the board members to write letters to the politicians of PA, stating just that! smile.gif Why hunt, fish, shop in, or travel to PA, when there are so many more gun-friendly states!!!! cool.gif Regards, Walter
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Posted 31 March 2004 - 05:50 PM

My senator's house is with walking distance of my house and my dad is friends with him. I might try to pay a visit to show him what the youth thinks of that bill.

Edit: How long do I got until this bill is voted on?

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Posted 31 March 2004 - 06:49 PM

I decided againist visiting him do to my father's suggestion. So here is the e-mail I plan on sending him, please feel free to give suggestions, I won't be sending to him today(unless it is voted on tomorrow or something).

QUOTE
Allen G. Kukovich,

  I am Robert Regis Dornin, a 16 year old sophomore in Penn Trafford High School.  My future plans are a little uncertain, but I believe that I want to join the United States Marine Corps.  That is all beside the point; I am e-mailing you to ask and state my opinion on PA House bill 2451 that is banning “assault weapons.” 
  Now I may know very little about the process of a bill becoming a law on the state level, due to lack of schooling in that area, but please bear with me.  From my understanding, it will be banning the selling, buying, transferring, and owning of the weapons the bill describes, except for those affected by certain circumstances.  I would like to know how you are going to vote on this.  I personally feel that this is just politics.  The features described are completely cosmetic and for the most part do not effect the operation of the weapon.  These features just make a rifle/pistol more enjoyable to shoot because of level of comfort they provide.  Those same features also make it so civilians can own weapons that look and feel like the ones current militaries issue to their soldiers without them actually owning those weapons.  Also on the other end of it, it makes weapons look more appealing cosmetically and more comfortable, so the shooter can make more precise shots.  A more precise shot means if he had to defend himself or someone else he could remove a threat without the chance of hitting innocent bystanders. Banning these features would be like banning cars that look fast, or banning the use of comfortable seats.

  -Bob Dornin

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Posted 31 March 2004 - 09:39 PM

Grrrr! mad.gif

Just finished tapping out 3 letters.

Man this piece of literary work really frosts me....
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Posted 31 March 2004 - 10:02 PM

Jesus, This is nut's!!!!
Man O Man, what are they thinking!
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Posted 31 March 2004 - 10:18 PM

I’m not from Pennsylvania, but does anyone else find it ironic that the very state that gave us the Constitution of the United States in 1787 should be the one now that completely defaces and disembowels the very document that we hold so revered? What would the Founding Fathers think of this travesty? Hell, you might as well throw out the 2nd Amendment altogether…it seems to me that you won’t even be able to own a rubberband gun in the great state of PA without FRANKEL, THOMAS, BISHOP, COHEN, CURRY, D. EVANS, HORSEY, JAMES, JOSEPHS, KIRKLAND, LEACH, MELIO, PISTELLA, ROEBUCK, ROONEY, STETLER, STURLA, WASHINGTON, WATERS, WEBER, WHEATLEY, WILLIAMS AND YOUNGBLOOD breathing down your neck…and who’s next, Thompson guys…my State…your State? Is it me, or did they forget to add A. HITLER’s name to the list? mad.gif
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Posted 31 March 2004 - 11:42 PM

i'm not from PA either...wrong side of kentucky for me..i'm in tennesee....PhilOhio i'm with you..i see it...first thing i though when reading it.....Imcomplete..reguardless of what your father says...i'd visit with him and atleast let him know where i stand and tell him what you think....even though you are underage...this affects your life also....your future and your kids future and saftey aswell....i would go over there and ask him if he would be willing to speak with you about the subject for a few minutes.....be respectful and talk man to man with him....you'll get futher that way....then you can light bags of crap on his porch later after he dosent support your rights....lol.....and yes treborsnikwad..its very ironic....just goes to show how fast the country is leading itself to destruction.....i use to always think people stockpiling ammo and such was a little weird....but the way its getting....its not looking so weird anymore...maybe a good idea....things are just gonna keep getting worse before they get better.....and thats gonna get ugly......
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Posted 31 March 2004 - 11:58 PM

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THIS GODDAMN COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
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Posted 01 April 2004 - 04:50 PM

After some thought, I figured out a way to help those certain Amerikan's in PA in wording their new act:

ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN
Sec.
12 6151. Definitions.
13 6152. Manufacture, possession and transfer of assault
14 weapons.
15 6153. Possession of assault weapon components.
16 6154. Registration of assault weapons.
17 6155. Fees.
18 § 6151. Definitions.

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1 The following words and phrases when used in this subchapter
2 shall have the meanings given to them in this section unless the
3 context clearly indicates otherwise:
4 "Assault weapon." The term includes the following:
5 (1) Any weapon that possesses any of the following:
8 (i) trigger.
10 (ii) stock .
11 (iii) barrel.
12 (iv) magazine.
13 (v) loose nut behind grip.
14 (vi) what the hell…any gun, period.


Just thought it would simplify matters to avoid any confusion...
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Posted 01 April 2004 - 09:56 PM

Questions:

The Honorable Brett Feese
Penn Hills Plaza, Halls Station
21 Kristi Road
Suite 2
Pennsdale, PA 17756


Dear Representative Feese,

I am writing you on a mater of great concern. It has been brought to my
attention that on March 17, 2004 that a new bill was introduced, and
possibly be placed into effect within sixty days of it's introduction.
House Bill No 2451

I urge you sir to vote down this horrendous atrocity against the sportsmen
of Pennsylvania.

I currently own a rifle that falls within this bills writing. I underwent
extensive FBI and ATF back ground checks, finger printing and submitted
passport quality photos, as well as having the Police Chief attest to my
character.

It is quite obvious that the constituents that are behind such a waste of
the Commonwealths tax dollars are greatly misinformed. Perhaps if they were
to focus their efforts on producing incentives for industry that a positive
goal could be obtained.


Sincerely,


Jack Ardrey
Registered Voter
Life Member of the NRA
Member of the Thompson Collectors Association

Reply:

Dear Mr. Ardrey

Thank-you for your email. I do not believe the Bill will even move out of committee not to mention become law in 60 days.

Best wishes
Brett Feese

Question NRA-ILA:

Greetings,
I have just been made aware that a bill is pending in the PA General Assembly
No 2451, March 17 2004.

I am writing my represenitives on this issue.

URL http://www.legis.sta...HB2451P3471.HTM

Reply:

Thank you for contacting the NRA-ILA and bringing this article to our attention. Our Pennsylvania State Liaison is aware of the current anti-gun legislation in PA, but please know that no movement is anticipated. Rest assured NRA-ILA will continue to monitor this legislation and contact our members if anything changes.

Sincerely,

Elizabeth Laws



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Posted 01 April 2004 - 10:02 PM

can't we audit our own country? that would be one easy way to get rid of alot of the problem people....lol
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Posted 06 April 2004 - 01:50 AM

The pen is mightier than the sword! biggrin.gif I sincerely urge each member to write to the President of the U.S., his/ her two senators, and representatives!!! smile.gif blink.gif cool.gif Regards, Walter
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