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#21 John Jr

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 10:54 PM

I give the credit where it’s due. The designer of the firearm deserves the credit. H. Maxim, John Browning, John Thompson, John C. Garand, Mauser, Stoner, the Russian AK dude, etc... These people were not the ones who mass-produced someone else’s design on an assembly line.

Browning’s designs were mass-produced by multiple manufacturers, Winchester, Colt, FN, Remington, and tons of others and these manufacturers are still doing so to this day.

After all we are talking about a regular man standing behind a regular machine milling parts. Some companies did better jobs than others, some did not. But remember this: Companies don't design guns; they merely build them and stamp their name on the finished product. The man who designed the gun deserves and has earned all the credit.

Say your home is invaded by a drug crazed murderer intent on killing your family and you defend yourself with a 1911 that has Colt written on the side or one that has Wilson Combat written on the side. Who really cares what is written on the side? John Browning’s design saved you and your families life. He deserves the credit, not Colt or Wilson.

John Thompson had enough foresight to not sell his invention to the Colt company. He let them make his gun after Savage turned down the contract. Interesting enough that Colt was offered the WW2 contracts and turned them down and Savage accepted them.

A firearm manufacturer is just that and nothing more. We are talking about factory guns. I don’t know where that leaves the NAC guns. Or a post dealer sample or a reweld, but factory guns regardless of maker are the same thing when discussing Savage and Colt. 15000 guns from the Colt line or 1,000,000 guns from the Savage line; it’s still just a regular man standing behind a regular machine milling parts.


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#22 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 14 April 2004 - 11:48 AM

John J,
I don't know how you have managed to avoid the Sandmen when you are now several months overdue for renewal through Carousel.

The designers intentions are only as good as the manufacturer that produces the finsihed product. Some are up to the task; some are not. The numerous manufactures that have attempted to produce the original Colt 1911 .45 is a case in point. As to the generalization that all factory produced weapons are merely a matter of a "regular man standing behind a regular machine milling parts," totally dismisses the variable of the human equation. Not all machinists can be said to be of equal ability or approach their work with equal pride. The CNC machines today have removed the human factor all together.

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