Mills & Rusco Canvas Products - Question
Posted 20 May 2004 - 06:32 PM
My curiousity lies with when Rusco began producing the same.
Anyone have any idea?
Any source of this information would be great if you knew that as well.
Posted 21 May 2004 - 03:21 AM
I have seen Thompson canvas carrying cases, XX magazine pouches and L drum pouches with the marking RUSCO (which is the same company) and was told that they used this marking in the 1930s. Some (not all) of the mag and drum pouches are a light OD green instead of the familar yellow/straw color. I have never seen any with the RUSCO marking that had a date marking.
I have a couple of web belts, XX Thompson mag pouches, a L drum pouch, and a couple XXX Thompson mag pouches marked R.M.Co (same company) and dated from 1940 to 1944. Some of the items are the tan color, others are a mix of tan and light OD, and some are all light OD color.
This leads me to believe that the RUSCO marked canvas items were made for commercial sale in the late 1920s through the late 1930s. There are also some unmarked pouches and gun cases of the same weave and color as the RUSCO marked pouches and cases. The unmarked gun cases that I have seen were the yellow/straw color but the pouches were the light OD color.
It appears that the very early military canvas items were marked Russell (in a circle) with a date and the WWII era military canvas items were marked R.M.Co with a date.
I'm sure that there is a more exacting explanation of the dates that the Russell Manufacturing Company used the various markings. There exists a lot more information on the "little details" of Thompson gear and accessories that has not been published (original A.O. documents, letters, etc.) . Hopefully the gentlemen with this information will share (in a new book or other publication) with all of us in the future.
Posted 25 May 2004 - 08:36 PM
Doesn't seem to make sense why a drum that had been sold out since at least 1923 would have a canvas maker making pouches for sold out product.
The Moor I appreciate your input but now I am even more curious.
Posted 26 May 2004 - 06:53 AM
Anyway, I saw a Marine purchase requistion (In American Thunder) where they were requistioning some Thompson and accessories in early 1940. Included in this requistion is 8 C drums and 8 drum pouches for the C drum. It appears that Russell Manufacturing had a relationship with the USMC as nearly all of the USMC marked pouches are made by R.M.Co. The C drum pouches marked RUSCO could have been made in the mid to late 1920s all the way up to around 1940. Are you sure that all of the C drums were sold out by 1923? It seems odd to me that the Corp would requistion an item in 1940 that had not been available since 1923.
I guess if we knew all of the answers it wouldn't be as much fun as it is.
Posted 26 May 2004 - 05:48 PM
Check out my website and the 1923 flyer, clearly the C drums are marked sold out.
Your observations on getting information are right on, it is out there some where.
I would love to see a scan of that purchase requisition.
Posted 27 May 2004 - 08:51 AM