What Would It Take To Lose A Thompson
Posted 25 May 2004 - 01:50 PM
Posted 25 May 2004 - 03:03 PM
As far as confiscation, I would always defer a situation like that to a supervisor;-) but to "permanently confiscate your registered gun for minor offense" would be unheard of here. Now, if charges of a serious nature were drawn (such as wanton endangerment, a meanacing charge, etc.) perpetrated with said gun, then you could temporarily lose your gun(s) while the case creeps its way through the courts. If you are found innocent or charges are dropped, the guns get returned to you most likely. Now, I don't know about what the Court migh do (if for a felony conviction you might lose it to destruction order). For the situation you cite, I don't think I'd worry too much. The days of the cops pocketing a nice gun after the Court says you can't have it seem to be over (at least in my agency;-)
Also, most coppers I know would simply warn you first that there had been a complaint of disturbing the peace (then ask for a turn!). The avenue of least paper work is my creed.
Just my .02
Posted 25 May 2004 - 07:53 PM
Ordnance - bombs and guns and grenades and sh*t
Ordinance - local laws
Posted 25 May 2004 - 08:00 PM
Private land, with permission of the land owner out in the country.
Jeez we are not active enough if we worry about that.
Posted 25 May 2004 - 08:03 PM
Posted 25 May 2004 - 08:42 PM
They don't even have an ordnance on barking dogs here!
If your concerned with ordinances, check them out as they are public information.
So long as the land owner is willing and proper safety requirements met, if the police do show up they will most likely enjoy the history behind such a fine weapon.
Posted 25 May 2004 - 09:00 PM
Posted 26 May 2004 - 08:50 AM
Most of the places I shoot are either on public/National Forest ranges or private land (usually farm land.) In VA, agriculturally zoned property isn't generally subject to noise laws (i.e., "disturbing the peace." Generally, we don't shoot on Sundays since some folks want at least one quiet, peaceful day around here.) However, there have been a few times when I've been shooting that someone has called the cops.
Each time, they've been pretty polite. They usually start by letting us know someone complained about the noise, and that since they were called about gunfire they have to investigate. From there it's usually either, "is that thing legal?/I didn't think those things were legal" (and we explain that they are, producing a barrage of paperwork and the obligatory "want to shoot it?") Or, "I can't tell you guys to stop, but you ought to at least go talk with your neighbor who complained...you're the one that has to live near him."
IMHO, if the police ever show up, first, be sure you're legal, and second, be polite. They're working guys doing their jobs just like the rest of us. Offer your paperwork and if they ask you to stop/leave, do so. No reason to get your dander up...if you do, you might be arrested and have your gun taken, at least for a little while. You'll probably beat the rap, even if you don't beat the ride, but why bother? And if your gun is confiscated, go straight home, call your lawyer, get your paperwork, and go straight to the station house. (I knew a fellow who had his MP5 confiscated by Chesterfield PD in VA once. He got his gun back eventually ( IIRC< it took him a month or two and a court order), but in the meantime, the PD shot the piss out of it, didn't clean it, etc... When he got it back it was filthy, scratched up, and had a dented cocking tube and broken rollers. He about cried when saw it.)