Posted 11 June 2004 - 09:34 PM
Posted 11 June 2004 - 09:52 PM
If it is original it sure looks to be in great condition.
Posted 12 June 2004 - 01:25 AM
Posted 12 June 2004 - 05:38 AM
I cut and pasted a post from Greg Fox on this subject from not too long ago. Greg makes reproduction cases and was at KCR.
Our cases are $539 for the Police and FBI models and $589 for the Indiana model. Shipping averages $28 UPS depending on your location. Pictures are available and there is plenty of feedback from purchasers on this board and others.
Jerry Prasser is also marketing a very good FBI case you might want to look at. I don't know how to contact him but I'm sure some one on this board will.
Thanks for your interest,
Posted 12 June 2004 - 05:51 AM
Now I am sure that anything is possible but an original FBI case without a provision for a metal spare parts kit seems odd to me.
I am not anywhere to try and read if any mentions of similar cases were observed by Cox, Hill or whoever, maybe one of our RKI board members can chime in on this observation.
Oh I also liked his ad stating they will ship to United States, Australasia, Europe, Canada BUT will only accept USPS money order. Sure would be one expensive trip to the US from Australasia, and Europe to come buy a USPS money order!
Posted 12 June 2004 - 07:42 AM
Posted 12 June 2004 - 10:03 AM
There was no "official" original design for these cases and Auto-Ordnance never manufactured them. Copies could have been made by any competent luggage manufacturer based on the design of the FBI and police style cases. I'm sure some police agencies saw a case and contracted with someone to make one up for them. The lack of a spare parts box and provision to hold one doesn't mean the case pictured isn't an original made for some police agency.
This is just an educated guess, but I would venture to say the case was not made in the 1930s based on the size of the cleaning rod pictured. The original cleaning rods with the Colt guns were the longer version. The cleaning rod pictured is an early WWII variety brass rod, not issued until the military adopted the 1928A1 Model. I would bet the case is of post WWII or early 1950's manufacture for a police or FBI gun.
Nothing to substantiate this, just a guess based on the appearance and aging of the case.
Posted 12 June 2004 - 10:37 AM
Posted 12 June 2004 - 05:41 PM
Posted 12 June 2004 - 06:05 PM
I posted a picture of one several months ago. I'll see if I can find the picture again and repost it.
Posted 13 June 2004 - 09:17 AM
Here is the picture I originally posted several months ago under the topic, "The 1930's Rust's Long Lost Violin Case."
It was taken from the Chicago Daily News photo archives showing the Chief of Police holding a confiscated Thompson sometime in the 1920's.
It was taken around the time of the Hymie Weiss murder and may, in fact, be related to that incident.
Posted 13 June 2004 - 05:06 PM
Posted 13 June 2004 - 05:11 PM
Posted 13 June 2004 - 05:46 PM
Enjoy the picture for what it's worth. It's an original documented photo from the era. I think that is what Sgt was inquiring about. Staged or not, it's an original old photo.
Posted 13 June 2004 - 08:25 PM
Are you kidding it was one of the ultimate eras of spin... As you even said in your statements,"downplayed the Thompson stuff." = spin. You ever see all the stock footage breaking up all the liquor equipment. People learned a lot of their news from the newsreels played at the local Ritz Theater..... Who do you think were involved in there production. They have been spinning the news/truth/outrightlies, since Cain and Able. Especially when you're talking the FBI! You remember the pretty director in the white chiffon dress, ole J Edgar......
btw I didn't mean to insinuate that you were trying to pass the photo off for anthing other than what is was....
Posted 14 June 2004 - 12:15 AM