Fun Things To Shoot At
Posted 04 July 2004 - 11:05 AM
Posted 05 July 2004 - 11:48 AM
Posted 05 July 2004 - 12:27 PM
If you shoot steel it is wise to keep a good distance and have the plate or whatever angled for deflection away from the line.
Posted 05 July 2004 - 12:30 PM
Posted 05 July 2004 - 01:06 PM
I think that richochet is the wrong word.. I think it's more like re-directed.. I think that when the pin spins the bullet is also spun around and re-directed.... I just don't see these rounds bounding off of plastic and wood like has been stated here..especially when shot with a .308 or 30.06....
|Lets use a little common sense and logic here.|
Yes, lets do that.. a Buffalo is a large heavy object made of flesh, bone and gristle..a penny is made of copper..but weighs nearly nothing in comparision to either a buffalo or a bowling pin..a bowling pin is made of wood and plastic, usually, but is fairly heavy because of it's intended use. It has mass, a buffalo has mass..the penny has no mass to speak of.. I'm not Newton but I think the laws of resting objects staying at rest applies here...a penny will move more with the round hitting it, if it is a large relatively slow moving like a 50-70, for it has very little mass to keep it at rest...a bowling pin and a buffalo will remain at rest as the bullet passes through the outer covering/skin because they have a specific gravity that allows them to remain at rest as this happens.... Now as the pin turns can it not be that the spin put on the pin by the force of the bullet strike makes the bullet turn along with the pin and the exit could make the bullet return toward the shooter or off to some angle that would make it look as if it has bounced off????
Also a Buffalo herd moves at the speed of the slowest member of the herd...predators catch and kill off these slower/weaker animals and in doing so increases the speed and efficiency of the herd. As we all know alchohol kills brain cells but, as with the buffalo, it kills off the slower weaker brain cells first making the brain a faster more efficient organ..this is why you always feel a lil smarter after a couple of beers......
Posted 05 July 2004 - 01:26 PM
|Now as the pin turns can it not be that the spin put on the pin by the force of the bullet strike makes the bullet turn along with the pin and the exit could make the bullet return toward the shooter or off to some angle that would make it look as if it has bounced off????|
There you go, weather the bullet is bouncing off of the pin or it is "re-directed" it could still come back at you. Is a "re-directed" bullet safer than a bounced bullet? If anyone here has been hit with a "re-directed" bullet let us know, does it hurt? Yeah, I guess a bowling pin and a buffalo are pretty much the same thing, one is 5 pounds and the other is 2,000 pounds, that's only 400 times heavier. Next time I go bowling I’ll just take the Sharps.
Posted 05 July 2004 - 01:57 PM
|I guess a bowling pin and a buffalo are pretty much the same thing,|
You have a knack for missing the point don't you ?
I'll tell you this.. I don't want to be hit by any of the three ( buffalo, penny, bowling pin) dropped off the Empire State Building..(or by 40 foot tall apes either).....Oh but which one would hit the pavement first???
Would you try a .308 on one for me and see if the holes are just closed on both sides??
Posted 05 July 2004 - 02:20 PM
Missing the point? My original point was that I know it to be unsafe to shoot bowling pins because a bullet can come back at you weather it is bounced back or "re-directed" back at you. That's my point and you even agreed when you said a bullet could be "re-directed" when shot at a bowling pin. There is more than enough people that agreed that it doesn't need to be discussed any further. All I wanted to do was to try and prevent innocent people from getting shot, then I get a bunch of you saying it is safe and even promoting it. Do you not care if you or anyone else gets shot?
Posted 05 July 2004 - 02:40 PM
We always kept around 30 to 50 yds and have never experienced ricochets , redirections or anything that would be considered unsafe. Are you guys shooting them outside up north where they would be frozen and much harder to penetrate?
I'm just trying to understand why several of you have had bad experiences, when we've been doing this for years and never had it happen.
Matter of fact the only redirection I personally ever had was from a .380 auto that hit a rock and came straight back. It was in bright daylight and I actually not only saw it, but I stopped with my gloved hand trying to protect myself. Put a bit of a knot in my palm but no broken skin or anything.
Posted 05 July 2004 - 04:34 PM
|QUOTE (Hawkeye_Joe @ Jul 5 2004, 01:06 PM)|
|Also a Buffalo herd moves at the speed of the slowest member of the herd...predators catch and kill off these slower/weaker animals and in doing so increases the speed and efficiency of the herd. As we all know alchohol kills brain cells but, as with the buffalo, it kills off the slower weaker brain cells first making the brain a faster more efficient organ..this is why you always feel a lil smarter after a couple of beers......|
I'll drink to that!
Posted 06 July 2004 - 08:07 AM
|Do you not care if you or anyone else gets shot?|
Well yeah ....I said that in my very first post when I agreed with Norm...
|But you had the best advise of all:|
To be 100% (or at least 99.9%) sure that your target won't throw a round back at you, stick with soft targets. They are messy though, but no ricochets. Milk jugs full of water have nice effect, and water just dries up.
Remember, when it comes to firearms: better safe than sorry!
Then again in my second post:
|If I were the Second Chance Co. and people were being hit by richochets I would look for new targets. |
If I had a "collection" of rounds I'd been hit with .. I'd step back a lil more and show up at matches looking like a "bomb defuser" .
I think this subject has been beaten worse than a dead horse.....no matter what anyone says, some one will say that it "Happened to them." Or "It couldn't happen."....I'm signing off of it as of now....
Posted 06 July 2004 - 09:49 AM
Posted 06 July 2004 - 10:18 AM
I know they apply, the same thing just gets said over and over.
I'm just having fun!
People say they got hit by richocets from bowling pins. I would stay away from them too, if it happened to me.
I think it's just a matter of chance. I have seen stranger things happen.
Posted 06 July 2004 - 12:04 PM
|I've also had pins that shrug off .308 like it was airsoft.|
Sorry you think I was picking on you , though I was about your attitude, after you call everyone who doesn't agree with you ignorant, and to use common sense.. I tried to speak to you as an adult, and the quotes were there to show what subjects that I was commenting on for clarification.... I see that was a mistake. Hope you don't leave though.. life's too short ....have a beer and settle down.
Posted 06 July 2004 - 12:32 PM
Posted 06 July 2004 - 01:39 PM
Don't worry I won't leave. I have to stick around and give you more s..t. Didn't we have fun. 64 Replies and over 830 looks, isn't that great!! Who would have thought that anyone could talk about a bowling pin this much? After this much publicity you should call AMF and have them sponsor your next shoot. I'll come to but only shoot the paper targets with the picture of a pin on them and on the other end of the range with a bullet proof vest on. I am a little sensitive about stray bullets which is why I got so upset. I have been almost shot several times and it's not fun. One time was at a local gun show where a guy (dealer) wanted to see if this 30-06 shell fit in his gun, well it "accidently" went off and put a hole in the wall about 1 foot above my head. The whole place went silent for about 2 seconds and then it went back to business as usual. Another time I was walking in the field behind my house and the neighbor thought he would blindly fire off a couple shots, I heard them wiz past my head. I deal with a lot of different people every day and am slowly losing fath in the intelligents of the population. Too many computers doing the thinking for them. Too many people that have no common sense. Too many people blaming other people for there problems. The discouraging part is that I am not even 30 years old yet and have to watch America get dumber for the rest of my life. I'll get off my soap box now. I'll be back to read and sometimes post. It was fun, gets the blood moving. By the way, the smell ya later comment was from the Simpsons, one of the greatest tv shows in history.
Posted 06 July 2004 - 02:01 PM
All I want to know is what did you get to shoot at over the weekend??? AND was it fun???
Posted 06 July 2004 - 02:36 PM
"screw you guys..........I'm going home.."